Re: [IBMiOSS] Updates to 5733OPS

Well we can debate the nuances of the way IBM did this but you need to understand that they wanted to make the process as 'simple' as possible for them to cut these new options loose. To do that they created all these options (which by the way are likely already in your current download) Just install options 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15.) Installing these empty option is el-quicko as there am nothing there. Thus as they cut PTFs loose (VASTLY simpler than adding an LPP option) you get the new feature option or update.

Maybe I eat sleep and breath LPPs and PTFs too much but it made perfect sense to me. For the record if a PTF is for an option of a product that you do not have installed it makes perfect sense that if you want the PTF you would need the option installed. Documentation of that is not needed.

I did ask Alison if there was any discussion about changing this method of distribution and I got a flat out table pounding laugh. And then she said: "And this is the first time I can say this is NOT because it's you asking Larry, it's just not gonna happen!"

Honestly though do you want IBM coming up with a slick new install upgrade delivery and notification process or do you want them making with the new options? Me I'm voting for the latter.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

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On 7/31/2016 4:42 PM, Buck Calabro wrote:

On 30 July 2016 at 23:41, Pete Helgren <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I know I have seen it posted somewhere but for the life of me I cannot find
it: Where are the instructions for adding new options to 5733OPS? Based on
the Developerworks wiki, it looks like all I need is to install Group PTF
SF99223. Done! But all I still have is just options 1 and 2. I thought
I'd at least pick up option 4 but no joy......

Yes, this is an atrocious abuse of IBM i's PTF process. When IBM
decided to deliver full free RPG, they didn't insist 5770-WDS option
eleventy-nine be installed first, and then install PTF SI55442 . It
was SNDPTFORD, LODPTF, APYPTF, done.

What we have with 5733-OPS is an undocumented pre-req: that the
individual option for the various open source 'thing' be installed
prior to installing group SF99223. It's not documented at
Developerworks, in group SF99223, nor in any individual PTF within the
group.

Saps like me who downloaded 7.2 on the day it was announced haven't
got media with 15 generic options. I downloaded 5733-OPS from ESS
when /that/ was announced, and it simply didn't occur to me to GO
LICPGM, 11, 1=Add any more than the 3 options IBM had announced back
then.

Lesson learnt. I'll re-download OPS from ESS, install every option in
the known galaxy and then re-install group SF99223. It sure would
have been nice that this were documented somewhere, but I guess
documentation is passé.

--buck
person of oldness