Re: [IBMiOSS] Updates to 5733OPS

[DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Since 5733OPS isn't in the default install list you need to add the 
*BASE and each of the options to the install list. I have always done 
that as I'm pretty sure the first document I saw said "There are 15 
options to be populated over time." No idea where I saw that but it 
stuck in my head.

Because they are not in the list the default install option or upgrade 
from any previous release wouldn't install any of them.

I would think if you took the "Install All" option (GO LICPGM option 1) 
that it would install all 15 but I have never tried that because 
obviously it will install all the other options as well and I don't 
normally want that!

        - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

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On 7/31/2016 9:17 PM, Pete Helgren wrote:
> Thanks.  I am not sure where I got off the rails (no pun intended).
> When I installed V7R2 ages ago and heard about the announcement of
> 5733OPS I did what most did and installed what was available then. Not
> thought to add what wasn't there (who woulda known!)
>
> I don't suggest a new way to install, BUT if having all 15 options
> installed, even if they are "placeholders", is a requirement then the
> install license program routine should install them all.  Stuff that is
> required during install should happen well, um, should happen
> automagically (IMHO).
>
> Thanks for all the replies.  I feel better because misery loves company...
>
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> On 7/31/2016 4:25 PM, DrFranken wrote:
> > Well we can debate the nuances of the way IBM did this but you need to
> > understand that they wanted to make the process as 'simple' as
> > possible for them to cut these new options loose. To do that they
> > created all these options (which by the way are likely already in your
> > current download)  Just install options
> > 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15.) Installing these empty option is
> > el-quicko as there am nothing there. Thus as they cut PTFs loose
> > (VASTLY simpler than adding an LPP option) you get the new feature
> > option or update.
> >
> > Maybe I eat sleep and breath LPPs and PTFs too much but it made
> > perfect sense to me. For the record if a PTF is for an option of a
> > product that you do not have installed it makes perfect sense that if
> > you want the PTF you would need the option installed. Documentation of
> > that is not needed.
> >
> > I did ask Alison if there was any discussion about changing this
> > method of distribution and I got a flat out table pounding laugh. And
> > then she said: "And this is the first time I can say this is NOT
> > because it's you asking Larry, it's just not gonna happen!"
> >
> > Honestly though do you want IBM coming up with a slick new install
> > upgrade delivery and notification process or do you want them making
> > with the new options?  Me I'm voting for the latter.
> >
> >         - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
> >
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