I would hope you are correct but, I do not know for certain. If a
programmer is directed to write code that violates the law and the code
is discovered is the programmer culpable? I suspect the courts would
say yes but again, I do not know for certain.

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From: midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:52 PM
To: Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re:


I am pretty sure that being a witness to a crime is not. in itself, a
crime. Is there any law that makes it a criminal offense to not report
a crime?

Gary Monnier wrote:
"presumption that you should have known about it, should have
reported it." - Yes there is always the presumed guilty until proven
innocent argument.

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From: midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
macwheel99@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 3:27 PM
To: Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE:


There is a fiduciary responsibility associated with various
professionals. If your company is doing stuff that you think is
illegal, you first have an obligation to bring this to the attention
of management. If management does not take action that you feel is
appropriate, then your
next responsibility is to figure out if there is a government agency
you

need to be a whistleblower to report the activity.
If you do not report it, and the government later finds out,
investigates, there is the presumption that you should have known
about it, should have
reported it.

Actions to cause global warming are not yet considered to be illegal.
However. this sort of thing can vary across international boundaries.
Example ... people in Candada get acid rain thanks to actions of
industries in the USA. Law suits abound.

On Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:45:52 -0700, Gary Monnier wrote

Why are petroleum engineers and the companies they work for equally,
legally and morally responsible for loss of land due to global
warming



and illegal activity done within the company?

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of VanEaton,
George
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:28 AM
To: Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: RE:

No, this it not a rhetorical question. For this question, yes I am
grouping programmers with all other computer folks.

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-nontech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
Ryan
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:23 PM
To: Non-Technical Discussion about the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re:

Is this a rhetorical question?

Are you grouping programmers with all other computer folks?

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:59 PM, VanEaton, George
<George.VanEaton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Why are computer programmers and the companies they work for
equally,

legally and morally responsible for system failures and illegal

activity

done with in the company?



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