<The posts are coming through so slow, I'm losing track of which things have been posted, which are in the hopper, which are among the dozens of drafts I started, and which are things I'd /thought/ about posting, but never wrote down... I don't recall if this is redundant, or not... Moved from RPG-L, where I probably (albeit unintentionally) caused some hard feelings.> "Businesses pay MUCH more by forgetting KISS, and jobs go to India as a result." This seemed to start an awful lotta trouble, and probably pushed some people's buttons. (I can't try to remember each and every person I've ever had a conversation with, and write, and try to avoid hitting every single person's button.) Perhaps (no perhaps about it), Mr. Palmisano says it better than I. "Other countries are becoming more competitive not only in wages but also in education, job skills and network infrastructure, he said. 'We believe the United States must again raise the bar -- to take the steps necessary to keep the nation at the forefront, to continue to offer the most fertile and attractive environment for innovation in the world.' His comments come at a time when IBM and other companies are shifting jobs overseas as they try to cut costs. : : The U.S. has had sustained innovation over decades, Palmisano said, but needs to work more with business, academia, labor and government to not lose that history of innovation to other countries." http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/outsourcing/story/0,10801,8670 1,00.html?nas=PM-86701 Imho, KISS is something the U.S. and Europe naturally excel at. Having had two centuries of experience balancing risks vs. the cost-benefits, and the willingness to fight through tough times, /should/ come to SOME advantage! | -----Original Message----- | [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of jt | Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:54 PM | To: RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries | Subject: RE: Please vote for Syntax check in /FREE! | | -----Original Message----- | | [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Hans Boldt | | | Joel: If we do that traditional RPG enhancement poll again, you'll | | have your chance to vote on it. But personally, I think we have | | enough good polling data to last us a couple more releases. For this | | item in particular, we do indeed already have a very good idea how | | popular it would be. | | | | Cheers! Hans | | I don't have time to be anything but blunt, at the moment. I wanna debunk | THIS myth, however: | | You and a lotta folks at IBM are VERY SADLY *MISTAKEN* to believe | you have a | "very good idea" of what the "average" user of RPG even DOES, Hans. I | didn't get very far in college, but I got far enough to understand the | concept of how a *statistically random* sample can allow a small sample to | accurately measure the whole. (You do NOT have a statistically random | sample with these polls, btw.) | | You think procedure overloading is anywhere even CLOSE to a necessity in | **business application** design?? If you took a poll of ALL the | RPG coders | (and I mean every last stinking one of us, not the people who | frequent these | lists) then making RPG more object-orientated would be SO far behind | improving SEU that it wouldn't EVEN show UP as a choice on the poll!!! | | I'm not gonna be popular with this list, of course, but imo (and I'm | *fairly* certain the opinion of the VAST majority of ALL RPG coders) you | wasted a lotta resources implementing /FREE, before you EVEN | thought through | how to effectively syntax-check the stuff. | | I'm sure it's made ToroLabs very popular with the folks that frequent this | list though, and is part of Software Group's "grand" design to FORCE all | coders to move to Java. Well, here's the view of that strategy | from someone | far more educated than I am: | http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2003/09/20#a1762 (Comments were also | interesting, although I don't understand but 'bout half what | they're talkin' | about, and clearly shows which people have a very highly vested interest | (financial (career-wise) and/or emotional) in J2EE, btw.) | | Who loses? When it comes to a day when a person with a 2- or | 4-year degree | with a SOLID basis in computer fundamentals can't EFFECTIVELY get the job | done? Well... Businesses pay MUCH more by forgetting KISS, and | jobs go to | India as a result. | | I apologize to those on this list, and IBM, who actually believe that | operator-overloading and object-RPG is a necessity for business | application | design... It isn't. | | Good tools are. | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | This is the RPG programming on the AS400 / iSeries (RPG400-L) mailing list | To post a message email: RPG400-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx | To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, | visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/rpg400-l | or email: RPG400-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx | Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives | at http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l. | |
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