Re: U.S. warned in 1995 of plot to hijack planes, attack buildings

OK, ok, ok...

I have been buried in the reality of this in what friends in that arena have 
told me, what
STRATFOR has had to say and what Congressional hearings have been reporting for 
the last several
years and what NPR has been reporting, etc. And they all lead to this same 
conclusion. We were
neglecting human intelligence,  had more data then we could analyse, etc. and 
something was gonna
give. In other word, there WAS going to be a major breakdown in this process 
that could yield bad
results, although I admit, I don't think anyone could have imagined the hell 
that was last Tuesday
!

I APOLOGIZE if it was taken the way it apparently has been, because that is NOT 
what I meant in
ANY way.

Are we all friends again ? :-)

Chuck

"Draper, Dale" wrote:

> Hey Chuck, for what it's worth. I read your messages exactly the same way
> Chris did. And my reactions have been much the same. So maybe some
> reflection might be in order, eh?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chuck Lewis [SMTP:clewis@iquest.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:00 AM
> > To:   midrange-nontech@midrange.com
> > Subject:      Re: U.S. warned in 1995 of plot to hijack planes, attack
> > buildings
> >
> > Chris wrote:
> >
> > <Well, make up your mind. In your last post you said all you were doing
> > was relaying info.>
> >
> > What the heck are you talking about ?
> >
> > <How can you say it was a "MAJOR intelligence breakdown?" Is there some
> > chain that they failed to
> > follow from one end to the other? Is this the same plot? I mean, it
> > targeted different places than
> > those listed in the report you gave a URL for. Where do you feel they
> > dropped the ball?>
> >
> > Huh ? Ramzi Yousef at the time was KNOWN to be the original WTC bomber...
> > They also mention the
> > Pentagon as a target. Those are "different places" ?
> >
> > <Don't be stupid, Chuck.>
> >
> > Excuse me ? I think you are not understanding how the intelligence
> > community works.
> >
> > <They will uncover many plans as time goes on. Do you think that only one
> > terrorist ever has any
> > one kind of plan? So if bin Laden didn't think of attacking the WTC it
> > would have never happened?>
> >
> > Again, you are missing the WHOLE picture here.
> >
> > <The sort of inflamatory, finger pointing rhetoric that you attached to
> > that story is pretty
> > mindless. There is nothing in the story to say that there was any chance
> > that anyone could ever
> > have stopped what happened based on what was found six years ago.>
> >
> > It was ANYTHING but "inflammatory, finger pointing rhetoric", brother...
> >
> > <By "fly off the handle" I mean you jumped to a conclusion not led to by
> > the article you referred
> > to and took that opportunity to insult people who are dedicated to saving
> > lives. I didn't think
> > you were all that stirred up about it.>
> >
> > That is not what was intended and I am sorry you took it that way.  I have
> > many friends in this
> > group, DEA, SS, FBI, and the "others".
> >
> > <My guess is that doing stuff like that is just SOP with you.>
> >
> > Not at all.
> >
> > <It sure is. So you are free to add editorial. You are also free to post
> > follow ups lying and
> > saying, "I was just passing on the information." But when you lie and say
> > such, I am also free to
> > point out that you aren't telling the truth.>
> >
> > Again, you are way out of you league, I'm afraid...
> >
> > Chuck
> >
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