Another vote for UIM menus - and Nick Litten has a page - https://www.nicklitten.com/edit-menu-with-ibm-i-rdi/ - that looks interesting. I am not sure about what this gives us, but the screenshot in the article looks like it might be somewhat helpful.

See also Jerry Adams' post(s) here in this thread.

The *Application Display Programming* manual can be found at https://public.dhe.ibm.com/systems/power/docs/systemi/v6r1/en_US/sc415715.pdf

Chapter 16 has details on creating menus.

If you do want help with DSPF menus, that is in Chapter 9. As others have said here, you need "only" to create a DSPF and a MSGF that are specified in CRTMNU. In RDi, you can use the Screen Designer. And if you have iSphere installed, you have a very nice MSGF editor therein.

*Regards*

*Vern Hamberg*

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On 8/2/2025 4:02 AM, Daniel Gross wrote:
I have to second Patrik for the UIM menus - they are so much easier than SDA menus.

You have only 1 source - resulting in only 1 menu object - containing the menu UI (including scrolling menus with many options) and full help text.

If there is only one good result of the death of SDA it might be a wider adoption of UIM menus upon IBM I developer.

Regards,
Daniel



Am 02.08.2025 um 10:29 schrieb Patrik Schindler<poc@xxxxxxxxxx>:

Hello Jeff,

Am 02.08.2025 um 03:27 schrieb Jeff Crosby<jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxx>:

As of today I am fully retired so the SDA issue no longer applies to me.
Maybe you come back tinkering with IBM i privately? Has happened before with others: A Leopard rarely changes its spots. ;-)

The only thing I used SDA for was menus, What is the alternative (if any)
to maintain these menus?
Simple and this has been said from not only from me: Leave DDS menus and use UIM based menus. Once you have established the first menu from scratch, it's merely copy-member-and-change. See the Application Display Programming PDF from IBM.

:wq! PoC


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