RE: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA removal ?

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While CL menu's and UIM menu's are one option it still requires recreation
if you want to add another option or add some restrictions to who can
access/see that menu option.

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Subject: Re: How many of you will stay at V7R5 lower due to SDA removal ?

Another vote for UIM menus - and Nick Litten has a page -
[3]https://www.nicklitten.com/edit-menu-with-ibm-i-rdi/ - that looks
interesting. I am not sure about what this gives us, but the screenshot in
the article looks like it might be somewhat helpful.

See also Jerry Adams' post(s) here in this thread.

The *Application Display Programming* manual can be found at
[4]https://public.dhe.ibm.com/systems/power/docs/systemi/v6r1/en_US/sc415715.pdf

Chapter 16 has details on creating menus.

If you do want help with DSPF menus, that is in Chapter 9. As others have
said here, you need "only" to create a DSPF and a MSGF that are specified
in CRTMNU. In RDi, you can use the Screen Designer. And if you have
iSphere installed, you have a very nice MSGF editor therein.

*Regards*

*Vern Hamberg*

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(COMMON Americas Advisory Council) IBM Influencer 2023

On 8/2/2025 4:02 AM, Daniel Gross wrote:
> I have to second Patrik for the UIM menus - they are so much easier than
SDA menus.
>
> You have only 1 source - resulting in only 1 menu object - containing
the menu UI (including scrolling menus with many options) and full help
text.
>
> If there is only one good result of the death of SDA it might be a wider
adoption of UIM menus upon IBM I developer.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
>
>
>> Am 02.08.2025 um 10:29 schrieb Patrik Schindler<poc@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> Hello Jeff,
>>
>>> Am 02.08.2025 um 03:27 schrieb Jeff Crosby<jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>> As of today I am fully retired so the SDA issue no longer applies to
me.
>> Maybe you come back tinkering with IBM i privately? Has happened
>> before with others: A Leopard rarely changes its spots. ;-)
>>
>>> The only thing I used SDA for was menus, What is the alternative
>>> (if any) to maintain these menus?
>> Simple and this has been said from not only from me: Leave DDS menus
and use UIM based menus. Once you have established the first menu from
scratch, it's merely copy-member-and-change. See the Application Display
Programming PDF from IBM.
>>
>> :wq! PoC
>>
>>
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