Re: IBM i Cloud Vendors

["Larry \"DrFranken\" Bolhuis" <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I disagree with the 10 times cost!!

Clearly the cloud vendor is in business to make money, let's be honest! 
Additionally most cloud vendors server, storage, networking, power and 
other bits are done to a higher standard than the average IBM i shop 
that I've visited over the years. That additional resiliency brings with 
it additional cost.

A year ago if a customer has say 5 cores licensed and wanted to upgrade 
to Power10 for example, they would transfer licenses and pay SWMA and 
the hardware bits and off they went. To move to cloud the cloud vendor 
would need to acquire 5 additional cores of IBM i, plus SWMA etc so 
that's a lot of cost there to make up that the customer has already 
incurred perhaps decades ago.

But today that customer now steps into term licensing and oddly enough 
the cloud vendor would be doing the same thing! This makes a move to 
cloud much more cost effective even for customers with many IBM i cores.

Then there are so many other factors like staffing, knowledge, etc. 
Cloud is not for everyone, that is clear, but even for many big 
customers it works and we see that line moving up every year.

- DrF

On 12/4/2024 4:05 PM, Nathan Andelin wrote:
> We recently configured an IBM i VM at https://cloud.ibm.com/ costing $425
> per month for .25 of a Power 9 core. We've also had discussions with other
> cloud providers. The cost of cloud virtual-machine environments seems to
> come out at about 10 times higher than the cost of on-premise environments
> in terms of price per CPW. So it appears to me that cloud environments are
> not practical for "large" IBM i environments.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 1:16 PM Driver, Adam via MIDRANGE-L <
> midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > We're in the very early stages of planning and evaluation, and we're
> > looking for a list of potential cloud vendors for a (Large) IBM i
> > environment. We are considering the following solutions:
> >
> > - Hosted
> > - Full cloud
> > - Hybrid (Hosted/Cloud) and Hybrid (On prem./Cloud)
> >
> > So, any suggestions welcome, as well as thoughts and experience, including
> > ease of migration from on prem.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> > *Adam Driver*
> > *Senior IBM i Engineer*
> >
> >
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