RE: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: Possible to send a HOLD at PRINTER job from i? -- MIDRANGE-L

Rob,

That's one thing we are investigating as we consolidate, how many jobs will now be pushed to the same printers. The concern that was raised is that if multiple jobs go to same printer then people grab wrong print jobs etc. thus the print and hold concept.

The concern about having to stand and wait for print jobs has been brought up as well. All of these things are being discussed.
We currently don't even have any printers that do stapling, interesting as this has never been brought up before in my business.

This is one of the things I love about this forum... it brings up things that we may, or more likely, may not have thought of.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 4:05 PM
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Subject: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: Possible to send a HOLD at PRINTER job from i?

If it's not an "eyes only" type of printout is this really a problem?
The executive suite has their own printer.
HR suite has their own printer.
However the main office area holding engineering, customer service, IT, accounting, etc has three printers. Generally, it's not an issue here.
Two of the three do a bulk and I'm betting we only have the third since it came from office consolidation. I would find having to walk to the printer to "start now" and wait on the printout more of a pain. Granted, I do very little printing. Maybe one a week? But once a quarter I generate a few tree killers.
Then again, I generally tell those to staple.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 1:41 PM Ken Meade via MIDRANGE-L < midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks to you all for your input thus far.

Vernon, your idea was something akin to what I was thinking along the
lines of. Sending the print job to a CUPS (common unix printing
system) Server that is connected to each of the printers, having the
needed printer drivers living on that CUPS server and having the CUPS
act as a user with a specific code, this could be printer specific but
most of these jobs aren't 'for their eyes only' so even a generic code would work.

Need to pass your idea and mine over to the Network team to see if
it's possible or I'm just blowing smoke.

Ken

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VERNON HAMBERG Owner via MIDRANGE-L
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 6:46 PM
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Cc: VERNON HAMBERG Owner <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
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Subject: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: Possible to send a HOLD at PRINTER job from i?

We have a similar setup to yours, Charles - we have Konica-Minlota
BizHubs in departments - at least, we have 4 of them on this floor. No
local printers on anyone's desk at all now. And we do what you do.

Now it's been awhile, but I believe it is possible to map an IBM i
user profile as an alias in Active Directory. A print device on the i
would point to some IP address on the network for the managed
printing, so things queue up. And the alias makes the IBM i stuff come
up under your Windows user.

Of course, there's work to be done to set it up. Probably not much in
the way of device descriptions, though, necessarily.

We don't have much actual printing done now - we use Robot Reports for
users, which converts things to PDF or ??? and puts them on a network
file share or some such.

We've not yet given users the ability to use the Printer Output action
of ACS - I believe there are ways to limit what people can do with
that, so maybe that's an option.

HTH
Vern

On Tue, 30 Jul, 2024 at 3:12 PM, Charles Wilt <charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

To: midrange systems technical discussion

Probably going to depend on _how_ this is being accomplished for your
Windows printing.

It seems likely to be some combination of the printer hardware and
some software package.

For instance, I don't see our network attached printers in Windows.
All I see is "My Company Secure Print" as a printer.

After printing to that, I can walk to a printer, swipe my badge and
get my printout.

I'd suspect that in order for your IBM i to participate, you're going
to
- have to be using SSO/Kerberos, so that there's a single "user"
- possibly have to redefine the printers on your IBM i. (and use SNMP
or IPP as a protocol)

Just some thoughts off the top of my head.

HTH,
Charles

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 1:20 PM Ken Meade via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:

All,

Like a lot of companies we are looking at minimizing the number of
printers we have, but one of our concerns is that print jobs will
pile up at the printer.
I know that I can set up a driver configuration on my local Windows
machine to do a HOLD at the printer and I enter a code at the
printer to get my jobs when I'm ready for them.
In fact that is what we plan on doing for all users as we set up
their local machines and primary printers.
We'd like to replicate this same thing for jobs that come from our
i, is this even possible?

Thanks,
Ken

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