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That is exactly one of the reasons some of the managers here don't want to go to centralized printing! They are worried that people will hang around the printers or stop to talk on their way to the printer.

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Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 1:58 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: Possible to send a HOLD at PRINTER job from i?

The network printer is the new office water cooler.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2024 at 7:00 PM Vern Hamberg via MIDRANGE-L < midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Ken

I don't know if you have a choice of doing something like our company
does - printing all goes to a central server, then you log in at a
printer and get your jobs. No piling up, usually, although I've seen
someone have a several hundred page printout, and they have not stayed
around to take it off the printer. Sigh!

This thing does work really well - it's probably software the printer
manufacturer has, Konica-Minolta in our case.

Cheers
Vern

On 8/1/2024 7:12 AM, Ken Meade via MIDRANGE-L wrote:
Rob,

That's one thing we are investigating as we consolidate, how many
jobs
will now be pushed to the same printers. The concern that was raised
is that if multiple jobs go to same printer then people grab wrong
print jobs etc. thus the print and hold concept.

The concern about having to stand and wait for print jobs has been
brought up as well. All of these things are being discussed.
We currently don't even have any printers that do stapling,
interesting
as this has never been brought up before in my business.

This is one of the things I love about this forum... it brings up
things
that we may, or more likely, may not have thought of.

Ken

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Of
Rob Berendt
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 4:05 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@lists.midrangecom>
Subject: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: Possible to send a HOLD at
PRINTER job from i?

If it's not an "eyes only" type of printout is this really a problem?
The executive suite has their own printer.
HR suite has their own printer.
However the main office area holding engineering, customer service,
IT,
accounting, etc has three printers. Generally, it's not an issue here.
Two of the three do a bulk and I'm betting we only have the third
since
it came from office consolidation. I would find having to walk to the
printer to "start now" and wait on the printout more of a pain.
Granted, I do very little printing. Maybe one a week? But once a
quarter I generate a few tree killers.
Then again, I generally tell those to staple.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 1:41 PM Ken Meade via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks to you all for your input thus far.

Vernon, your idea was something akin to what I was thinking along
the lines of. Sending the print job to a CUPS (common unix
printing
system) Server that is connected to each of the printers, having
the needed printer drivers living on that CUPS server and having
the CUPS act as a user with a specific code, this could be printer
specific but most of these jobs aren't 'for their eyes only' so
even a generic code
would work.

Need to pass your idea and mine over to the Network team to see if
it's possible or I'm just blowing smoke.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
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Of VERNON HAMBERG Owner via MIDRANGE-L
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 6:46 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: VERNON HAMBERG Owner <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ EXTERNAL ]Re: Possible to send a HOLD at PRINTER job from i?

We have a similar setup to yours, Charles - we have Konica-Minlota
BizHubs in departments - at least, we have 4 of them on this floor.
No local printers on anyone's desk at all now. And we do what you do.


Now it's been awhile, but I believe it is possible to map an IBM i
user profile as an alias in Active Directory. A print device on the
i would point to some IP address on the network for the managed
printing, so things queue up. And the alias makes the IBM i stuff
come up under your Windows user.

Of course, there's work to be done to set it up. Probably not much
in the way of device descriptions, though, necessarily.


We don't have much actual printing done now - we use Robot Reports
for users, which converts things to PDF or ??? and puts them on a
network file share or some such.


We've not yet given users the ability to use the Printer Output
action of ACS - I believe there are ways to limit what people can
do with that, so maybe that's an option.


HTH
Vern


On Tue, 30 Jul, 2024 at 3:12 PM, Charles Wilt
<charles.wilt@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


To: midrange systems technical discussion

Probably going to depend on _how_ this is being accomplished for
your Windows printing.

It seems likely to be some combination of the printer hardware and
some software package.

For instance, I don't see our network attached printers in Windows.
All I see is "My Company Secure Print" as a printer.

After printing to that, I can walk to a printer, swipe my badge and
get my printout.

I'd suspect that in order for your IBM i to participate, you're
going to
- have to be using SSO/Kerberos, so that there's a single "user"
- possibly have to redefine the printers on your IBM i. (and use
SNMP or IPP as a protocol)

Just some thoughts off the top of my head.

HTH,
Charles

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 1:20 PM Ken Meade via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

All,

Like a lot of companies we are looking at minimizing the number of
printers we have, but one of our concerns is that print jobs will
pile up at the printer.
I know that I can set up a driver configuration on my local
Windows machine to do a HOLD at the printer and I enter a code at
the printer to get my jobs when I'm ready for them.
In fact that is what we plan on doing for all users as we set up
their local machines and primary printers.
We'd like to replicate this same thing for jobs that come from our
i, is this even possible?

Thanks,
Ken

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