Re: is this the correct understanding for commitment control running in ILE?

Jay,
Dieter Bender (D*B) says it ... and Dieter always lives in a "perfect
world"!
As I said it before as long as you do not have a 100% proper and
well-designed Activation Group Design (and most companies don't have it!!!)
and all commits and rollbacks only occur in a single Activation Group, you
should not use Commitment Scope *JOB.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

Birgitta Hauser
Modernization – Education – Consulting on IBM i
Database and Software Architect
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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jay
Vaughn
Sent: Friday, 26 July 2024 13:05
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: is this the correct understanding for commitment control
running in ILE?

DsternB,

Thank you very much. You addressed my points exactly as I was hoping.

Interesting Birgitta says always use *Job and you say never to.
Well in my case these are api pgms in a cgi job so I think actgrp commit
scope is the way to go!!

Im curious about your point below… can you elaborate a bit more?…


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<D*B>Only SQL starts commit by automatic - if the first update/insert is
made by RLA it will fail</D*B>
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Oh and as to your point about the implicit commit… as I was playing with
this yesterday, every time the top level pgm that started the cc running in
*new ended, the commit would happen without a commit being coded. If I
signed off and back on the record was still there.

So I do believe what I laid out is an accurate assessment of how cc
behaves on an api pgm in a cgi job environment.


Thanks!!

Jay

On Jul 26, 2024, at 3:03 AM, Dsternb <dieter.bender@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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<D*B>Only SQL starts commit by automatic - if the first update/insert
is made by RLA it will fail</D*B>
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