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I have a recent IBM Case about this and they say and I quote them:
“When applying CUME’s / Group’s, the only PTF’s that we recommend should be applied
*PERM is the 5770999 LIC MF’s.

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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jerry Draper
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 1:24 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Cume/Groups

When doing PTFs we used to Perm apply PTFs first but then IBM told us
NOT to do that.

They only recommend to Perm apply PTFs when doing a version update.


On 3/28/2023 11:19 AM, Rob Berendt wrote:
I agree with Larry. Ordering them separately just forces a bunch of extra
download space and time to get coreq's and prereqs. You end up repeating
the download.

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 1:46 PM Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis <
midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

I have done PTF groups more than 100 times and I apply all PTF groups
together every time in a row.

ONE RULE: Perm apply ALL PTFs first, then IPL to complete that.
apply all the new groups temp.

ONE EXCEPTION: If you are far behind in T/Rs, such as 'more than
4'. In
that case we will Slip the LIC with latest ReSpin first and then run all
the groups.

- Larry

On 3/28/2023 1:11 PM,ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

In previous times, I would always use the following groupings when
installing groups of PTFs:

Cume/Hiper/DB2 as one Go PTF Option 8 set

Then other IBM groups all together as a separate Go PTF Option 8 set

Then any sets of individual straggler PTFs for apps and 3rd party
as a final Go PTF Option 8 set

Is there anything wrong in this day and age with applying ALL the IBM
provided PTF groups together in one Go PTF Option 8 set?
and other groups at once, then a separate grouping for any stragglers as
described above)

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