Re: [EXTERNAL] SMTP via Google relay has changed status to: Not under consideration

What's funny about that is most think if "it works" (without setting up the
proper email relays) it's working right. They don't realize they're
sending emails directly to the recipient's mail servers. Some are rejected
because of no reverse DNS, others are rejected for other reasons and the
sender doesn't even know about those failed messages. They just think
because it works to their own account, or a yahoo account, that it works
for everyone.

I've tried to explain that to customers of the years.. all some care about
is the appearance that "it's working". :) They don't care how, why or
who... and move on to the next issue.

Always happy to help. I've got all my stuff switched over to OAuth for
GMail and O365 and so far so good. The only issue with O365 is their
refresh tokens can expire if not used and re-registration needs to
happen... not a huge deal, but it's annoying.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 9:50 AM Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

It only had 2 votes, BTW.

If the google thing comes to fruition Brad, you're going to hear from me in
a near panic.


On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 10:26 AM Greg Wilburn <
gwilburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

No. They probably changed it because it's difficult and they don't want
to tackle it.

This is a big issue. We have at least 3 applications on our IBM i that
has the ability to send email messages, but only via SMTP. And we're a
very small shop.
We use O365 as of last year... By default, no new O365 accounts (as of a
year ago) allow SMTP - it's a security risk. We had to configure one

email

address so that it has the ability to authenticate in a different manner.


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Brad Stone
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 10:13 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: [EXTERNAL] SMTP via Google relay has changed status to: Not

under

consideration

I find this interesting.

I wonder if it was just worded wrong, or IBM doesn't think that places

like

Google will not drop "less secure apps" from the paid/corporate accounts

at

GMail like they have with the standard gmail.com email addresses.

<vendor>
I did add to the original RFC to it that I would be willing to assist
anyone (IBM, company, ISV, etc) as we do have a solution and have for a

few

years.
</vendor>

Bradley V. Stone
www.bvstools.com
Native IBM i e-Mail solutions for Microsoft Office 365, Gmail, or any

Cloud

Provider!
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