Re: SMTP via Google relay has changed status to: Not under consideration -- MIDRANGE-L

Ya, relays work.. one problem is you don't get items in the sent folder for
the sender... which can be nice sometimes. Also one more link in the
chain. But, if it works... :)

On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 1:45 PM Michael Quigley <MichaelQuigley@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Similar to Rob, FWDHUBSVR in CHGSMTPA is set to '______.
mail.protection.outlook.com'. (The _____ is specific to our email domain
and MX record.) I'm not sure exactly what scanning is done, but our network
admins have led me to believe it's being done.

Michael Quigley
Computer Services
The Way international
www.TheWay.org

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message: 1
date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 18:20:53 +0000
from: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: SMTP via Google relay has changed status to: Not under
consideration

All of our email goes through a Cisco service which scans for virus, etc.
So we have one of their services listed as our forwarding mail hub

server in

CHGSMTPA.
Then it goes out through cisco service into O365.
Works fine.

Rob Berendt
--
IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail
to: 7310 Innovation Blvd, Suite 104
Ft. Wayne, IN 46818
Ship to: 7310 Innovation Blvd, Dock 9C
Ft. Wayne, IN 46818
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Of Michael Quigley
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 2:15 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: SMTP via Google relay has changed status to: Not under
consideration

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not

click

links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the
content is safe.

We just switched to Office 365. Our IBM i sends email all the time using

SMTP

with the right connectors. I'm working towards relaying the email via

TLS, but

I haven't had time to finish the setup yet.

Here are some docs you can start with:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
w.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fpages%2Fconfiguration-ibm-i-smtp-client-relay-
email-office365-and-
gmail&data=05%7C01%7Cmichaelquigley%40theway.org%7C57be21904
c1f4d7fddcb08da53b39127%7Cdfc3789155b94fe0bc8b34a0f4b6650f%7C0%7C
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w.ibm.com%2Fsupport%2Fpages%2Fhow-configure-smtp-client-use-smtp-
authentication-smtp-
relay&data=05%7C01%7Cmichaelquigley%40theway.org%7C57be21904c
1f4d7fddcb08da53b39127%7Cdfc3789155b94fe0bc8b34a0f4b6650f%7C0%7C0
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6p0%3D&reserved=0

I believe there are other options as well, but this has worked well for

us.

Michael Quigley
Computer Services
The Way international
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message: 7
date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:26:48 +0000
from: Greg Wilburn <gwilburn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] SMTP via Google relay has changed status to:
Not under consideration

No. They probably changed it because it's difficult and they don't
want to tackle it.

This is a big issue. We have at least 3 applications on our IBM i
that has the ability to send email messages, but only via SMTP. And
we're a very small shop.
We use O365 as of last year... By default, no new O365 accounts (as of
a year
ago) allow SMTP - it's a security risk. We had to configure one email
address so that it has the ability to authenticate in a different

manner.

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message: 2
date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:22:46 -0400
from: smith5646midrange@xxxxxxxxx
subject: F8 and F9 at the command line

I just learned something really useful and wanted to pass it along in

case

others missed it...now if only I can remember to use it.

Everyone knows that you can press F9 to recall previous commands. I just
found out that you can type part of the command followed by an * and then
hit F9 and it will retrieve the commands that start with the prefix. For
example, you have executed several WRKOBJ commands along with other
commands such as DBU, STRPDM, STRSQL, etc.. If you type WRK* and press
F9, it will search backwards through your previous command that begin

with

WRK (WRKOBJ, WRKOBJPDM, WRKSPLF, etc.) and skip anything that doesn't
start with WRK.

Now for the downside. This doesn't work if you are inside of PDM and a

few

other commands. However, if your attn key is set to give you a command

line

(I know QUSCMDLN works. I haven't tried QCMD but I have no reason to
doubt that it would work), you can press the attn key and get to this
functionality.

To add another piece of cool to this, you can also do an F8 to come

forward

one command. So, you are hitting F9 to get to a previous command and you
overshoot it (one F9 too many). Now you can press F8 and it will roll

forward

to the one that you overshot. This also does not work in PDM and a few
other commands.

Now a question. I found the F9* thing after accidentally hitting F8 in

PDM (I

already knew that it didn't do the scrolling but forgot) and then

googling to

try to figure out what F8 does. If you are middle of the member list and

hit

F8, it looks like it takes you to the bottom two members. Hit it again

and it

looks like it takes you to the top. Hit it again and it says it's an

Invalid function

key. Anybody have any idea what F8 really does in PDM? :)

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date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:26:09 -0400
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subject: Re: F8 and F9 at the command line

Don't need to press F9. Just write the first letters of the command,

followed

by an asterisk (e.g. WRKA*) and press Enter. It works with PDM.

Regards,
Luis Rodriguez

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I just learned something really useful and wanted to pass it along in
case others missed it...now if only I can remember to use it.

Everyone knows that you can press F9 to recall previous commands. I
just found out that you can type part of the command followed by an *
and then hit F9 and it will retrieve the commands that start with the
prefix. For example, you have executed several WRKOBJ commands along
with other commands such as DBU, STRPDM, STRSQL, etc.. If you type
WRK* and press F9, it will search backwards through your previous
command that begin with WRK (WRKOBJ, WRKOBJPDM, WRKSPLF, etc.)

and

skip anything that doesn't start with WRK.

Now for the downside. This doesn't work if you are inside of PDM and a
few other commands. However, if your attn key is set to give you a
command line (I know QUSCMDLN works. I haven't tried QCMD but I have
no reason to doubt that it would work), you can press the attn key and
get to this functionality.

To add another piece of cool to this, you can also do an F8 to come
forward one command. So, you are hitting F9 to get to a previous
command and you overshoot it (one F9 too many). Now you can press F8
and it will roll forward to the one that you overshot. This also does
not work in PDM and a few other commands.

Now a question. I found the F9* thing after accidentally hitting F8
in PDM (I already knew that it didn't do the scrolling but forgot) and
then googling to try to figure out what F8 does. If you are middle of
the member list and hit F8, it looks like it takes you to the bottom
two members. Hit it again and it looks like it takes you to the top.
Hit it again and it says it's an Invalid function key. Anybody have
any idea what F8 really does in PDM? :)

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