Re: DSPFMWSTS on OS controlled system

If I had to guess, I would say that it is referencing which firmware the
installed PTFs for the OS could provide. This would be weird because it
would be implying that the OS is actually backlevel compared to the server.
The only way for that to happen would be for the server to have been
updated before installing the OS and that the OS never got PTF'ed...

On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 09:03, Steve Pavlichek <spavlichek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mark,
I understand the A and B side IPLs and why there would be different
firmware and/or PTFs there. My question is why is there a “Server Firmware”
and a “Operating System Firmware” level.


Service partition . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Firmware update policy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : *OPSYS
Server IPL source . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Temporary
Firmware product ID/release . . . . . . . . . . . : 5733908 V1R1M0
Update access key expiration date . . . . . . . . : 01/01/21
Server IPL required . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : No

--Server firmware-- -Operating system--
Fix PTF Fix PTF Update
Copy pack ID pack ID Status
*ACTIVE SV860_109 MH01708
FW860.31
*TEMP SV860_109 MH01708 SV860_063 MH01672 Not allowed
FW860.31 FW860.11
*PERM SV860_109 MH01708 *NONE *NONE None
FW860.31 *NONE

From: Mark Waterbury<mailto:mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 5:30 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<mailto:
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DSPFMWSTS on OS controlled system

Correction, I should have said, "... you can recover by IPLing on the
A-side."

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 5:13:28 PM EDT, Mark Waterbury <

mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Steve,

When the system is not managed by an HMC, the operating system takes care
of updating the firmware as needed with certain PTFs.

What is shown for "Server IPL Source" on that WRKFMWSTS panel? e.g. is the
machine running on the "A-side" or the "B-side"? A=Permanent, B=Temporary

This concept applies to all PTFs that apply to the "LIC" (SLIC) kernel,
and also to "firmware" PTFs. (These are normally MFnnnnn PTFs.)

When PTFs are applied, they are always applied to the "temporary" copy of
the SLIC kernel first, that way, if something really bad happens, you can
recover by IPLing "on the B-side" (a B mode IPL), to take steps to
recover. If a bad PTF is installed, you can "un-install" it with RMVPTF,
as long as it is still in "temporary" status. Once it is applied
"permanently" it moves to the "A-side" and cannot be removed (except by
restoring the entire system from back-up tapes ...)

Hope that helps.

All the best,

Mark S. Waterbury

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 3:51:41 PM EDT, Steve Pavlichek <

spavlichek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Working with a customer who has a stand alone system with LAN console. The
DSPFMWSTS screen show two different firmware levels, Server and OS.

The *Active copy only displays Server Firmware SV8760_109 but the *TEMP
copy show the Server Fix pack is SV860_109 and the OS Fix Pack is SV860_063.

What is the difference and why would they be at different levels?
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