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Wait what? New Navigator coming with new tech? That is certainly most awesome. It's faster and better and incredible!

Yes I too am a 'CLI Guy' for admin. That includes IBM i but also VIOS, much of the work in the HMC, Storage, Fiber switches, Linux etc.

But here's the thing, I've been doing this for, um, 'some time' :-) so I'm used to using the keyboard and keyboard shortcuts efficiently. I know many commands and their parameters from memory as well as function keys. As a consequence I can use it effectively often completing a task before the current Navigator for i is loaded and signed in. Additionally It's rather easy to document 'ADDTCPIFC ....' in about 2 lines and perhaps a hundred character in WORD for example. Document that much in WORD using screen shots from Navigator for i including how to get to adding an interface and you're up to several pages and several megabytes.

BUT when you don't know what us CLI guys know, it's PAINFUL to watch someone who is not CLI trained do so in the CLI. I did that early this week on a screen share where I could not take over the keyboard. Simply adding an Ethernet line description, IP interface and route in the CLI should have taken MAX 2 minutes, perhaps under 1. Half an hour. Checking if it was active and listening on ports with netstat *CNN the poor guy had no little clue about F-keys and those 13 and up, "Wait, Shift key plus the F3?> That's a 15?" (sigh) It was truly painful. He'd never heard of QCMD, didn't know about F9 (Or F8!!) and not a clue that the tab key gets you to an entry field or that cursoring past the edge of the screen rolls to the far side. You could see him CONSTANTLY moving his hand to the mouse and back as he directed the cursor to the right spot with the mouse pointer.

It's not how most new folks are trained!

Besides that have you SEEN the processor utilization graph for the day in the green screen? Me neither!!

- Dr F

(Sad side knowt the guy was using a 'free copy' of Mocha because 'we can't afford IBM's client.' You guessed it, XW1 was *NOMAX. WHERE do these people get their business partners?!?!?!?)

On 2/24/2021 3:25 PM, Nathan Andelin wrote:
Regarding Navigator's performance, I was musing about Tim Rowe's assessment
about it being built on stone-age web technology and hinting that IBM would
fix that. Third time's the charm, right? Or is that 4th, or 5th, or 6th...
whatever...

If you go back far enough, remember everyone complained about the
performance of the thick client - for years, until PCs got so fast
that it resolved the issue.

For what it's worth, I still prefer green-screen system admin over every
GUI interface IBM has provided.



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