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RE: Disks are getting hammered ?SMPO0001?

What changed in the last week or so.

PTFs
IPL
BRMS save config
Domino data

Paul

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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 12:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Disks are getting hammered ?SMPO0001?

I'm rather curious as to why it's only been an issue for the last week or so.

Rob Berendt
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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Mark Waterbury
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Rob,

Based on that, this seems to fit the profile of the "worst case" for ASYNCBRING, as described in the help text for that parameter.

I suggest you try setting ASYNCBRING to *NO and see if that helps.

Mark S. Waterbury

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 12:26:35 PM EDT, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Domino is in IFS:
Directory . . : /ARCHIVE3
Number of % of Size in
Description Objects Disk Megabyte
Total space used by this directory 1 .00 .0
Total space used by objects in this directory and subdirectories 204280 42.23 1813315.9


Big share:
Directory . . : /home/FileShare
Number of % of Size in
Description Objects Disk Megabytes
Total space used by this directory 1 .00 .31
Total space used by objects in this directory and subdirectories 2073675 30.46 1307959.84

Change Backup Control Group Attributes
...
Use optimum block size . . . . . . . . . *YES ...
Save active wait time:
Object locks . . . . . . . . . . . . 120
Pending record changes . . . . . . . 120
Other pending changes . . . . . . . . 120 ...
Asynchronous bring . . . . . . . . . . . *YES

Weekly Retain Save SWA
Backup List ASP Activity Object While Message Sync
Seq Items Type Device SMTWTFS Detail Active Queue ID

10 *EXIT *DFTACT
20 *EXIT *DFTACT
30 *SAVSECDTA *DFTACT *NO
40 *SAVCFG *DFTACT *NO
50 ALLULIBEXC *OBJ *SYSBAS *DFTACT *OBJ *LIB *LIB *NONE
60 *ALLDLO *DFTACT *NO *YES
70 *LINK *ALLAVL *DFTACT *YES *YES *LIB *NONE
80 ARCHIVE3 *LNK *ALLAVL F *YES *YES *LIB *NONE
90 *EXIT *DFTACT
100 *EXIT *DFTACT

Backup
Seq Items Exit command

10 *EXIT addlible routines
20 *EXIT ROUTINES/DOWNDOMSVR
...
90 *EXIT routines/updomsvr
100 *EXIT SNDMSG MSG('Backup on MAIL4 is complete') TOUSR(PE


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Rob,

Are Domino databases mostly in the IFS?

What value is BRMS using for the ASYNCBRING parameter on the SAV?

Mark S. Waterbury

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 11:21:02 AM EDT, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Domino server is down. It was taken down as part of the start of the backup. It's in the BRMS control group.
Something in the backup is starting this.

Apparently you are not supposed to back up a system with only 5 physical drives.
IBM just keeps saying buy more drives.

QCTLSBSD = QBASE
Jobs in QBASE:
QBASE
BRMBKUPMON The backup
QPADEV0001 Me trying to figure what is going in
QSYSSCD System job scheduler

No other interactive or batch.

WRKSYSACT, sorted by I/O
Total Total SQL
CPU Sync Async CPU
Job User Number Thread Pty Util I/O I/O Util
QZLSFILET QUSER 387037 0000003E 20 3.0 264 0 .0
QPADEV0001 ROB 388131 0000001E 1 .6 30 0 .0
QTSMTPCLTD QTCP 387011 00000002 50 .1 16 4 .0
QGLDPUBA QDIRSRV 386879 00000001 50 .1 13 2 .0
QFILESYS1 QSYS 386823 00000003 99 .0 2 0 .0
ADMIN2 QLWISVR 386994 0000000C 25 .5 0 0 .0



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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 3:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Disks are getting hammered ?SMPO0001?

If it was problems with Domino wouldn’t there be some job in the Domino subsystem going bonkers?
Memory usage was minimal.
Disk I/O in WRKSYSACT never flagged a Domino job.
But I can check next time it goes berserk.

Domino administrator reports "Logical size" and "Physical size". Logical size is how big the database would be if you weren’t using compressing, DAOS, etc. There's a huge discrepancy between logical size and physical size. Then again, we never put a limitation on attachment size when we were using Domino so people went berserk. DAOS helped big time.
The top 25 databases by logical size are all over 30GB each. Some as big as 90GB.
The top 16 databases by physical size are all over 10GB each. Some as big as 24GB.

Rob Berendt
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Hello Rob,

Am 17.07.2020 um 19:15 schrieb Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>:

IBM ran all sorts of PEX traces and stuff and are trying to blame it
on that ASP only has 5 disks. Personally I would think that would be
plenty for a system with
- zero interactive users
- the only batch application being the nightly backup
- One Domino server. Serves up archived email from past employees. Currently the only user on it is me. No web users, no database users.

My thoughts…

How big is the Domino Database?

Does the problem go away when you stop the Domino SBS?

:wq! PoC

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