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Saying "*SYS is far, far away" - that extension does not make the entire product "far, far away" from the standards - we need a list of how every RDBMS departs from the standards to have a meaningful conversation - your statement has to be an example of one of the logically fallacious kinds of statements, just as your deflection on the matter of RLA is a fallacious argument. And your statement about values into - it does not matter what the implementation is - if the relational interface were built on top of a hierarchical lower level, who cares? SQL Server's internal structure differs considerably from DB2 on IBM i, but both present a relational language to work with the data - standards are primarily about how SQL works at a high level, not about the low-level implementation.

On 3/17/2020 1:47 AM, D*B wrote:
@values into: this came later on and is using sysibm.sysdummy1 under the cover. (database monitor showed this)

@SQL dialects: all implementations are variants of ANSI SQL. My recommendation is: go as close to the standard as possible - and naming *SYS is far, far away.

@RLA: using RLA, you can't use newer and very important features (e.g.: instead triggers).

Dieter


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