Regarding this level 16/17 thing -

My cloud provider contacted IBM. They're having a big meeting about this
very issue at this time. The word is getting out.

That being said, IBM is saying if both 16 and 17 are there available to
apply, 16 won't be a problem because "it won't even look at it". This
sorta agrees with what IBM told Paul.


On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:48 AM Mark Waterbury <
mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi, Art,

Just order SF99703 -- that's the group for "DB2 FOR IBM I" ...


Issue WRKPTFGRP, then press F11 to see what PTF IDs correspond to what
group names, and F11 again will show you what level is currently
installed. :-)

Hope that helps,


Mark S. Waterbury

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 9:28:19 AM EST, Art Tostaine, Jr. <
atostaine@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

How do you use SNDPTFORD to download 17 only?

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:20 AM DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Then you're doing it wrong. :-)

It's been a Looooong time since this became an option but
DLVRYFMT(*IMAGE) tells SNDPTFORD to download an image catalog instead of
individual *SAVFs. Safe to say at LEAST i 7.1 had this option. You then
get to specify:

Image option . . . *DOWNLOAD or *ORDER(use WRKPTFORD to download)
Image directory .
Image prefix . . .
Image catalog . .


Yes there are times *SAVFs are useful and for someone with only one IBM
i instance they are usable. They are not easily distributed however and
are not easily cleaned up either. And in situations such as this you
don't know which *SAVF goes with which group so there's that too. :-)

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 12/3/2019 3:21 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
Jim - I'm sorry if I'm being dense and confused, but I am :)

I do SNDPTFORD, so no image catalog.

- both 16 and 17 are on my system as Not Applied
- DSPPTFCVR *NOTAPY shows *ONLY* MF99207 set to apply at IPL
- I cannot set any more to apply right now because I get "PTF
5770999-MF99207 V7R3M0 requires IPL"

Is this my course of action:

- Do an IPL so MF99207 applies
- then do INSPTF LICPGM((*ALL)) INSTYP(*DLYALL) which will get every
other
PTF set to apply
- do another IPL which will then do both level 16 and 17

I'm asking because in earlier emails both you and Larry said to NOT do
that
with both 16 and 17 there, then in this latest email you suggest
because
17
is there, I'll be OK,

My system is in the cloud, so the cloud provider is in the loop. I'd
like
for this group and the cloud provider to agree.

Sorry to be so anal-retentive, but the stakes are pretty high.

Thanks.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:46 PM <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

IF 17 is on already you should be past the problem entirely.

How to you apply these that it would be not applied? Did not IPL from
the
image catalog?

In any case, IPL and it should be OK because 17 is there.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
Jeff
Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

How do I discard it? WRKPTFGRP and option 4=Delete it? I've never
done
that before.

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:11 PM <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Don't attempt to apply 16, that will cause issues. Discard it.
Apply
17.

The only way 16 does not cause issues is if you are very current on
HIPER and DB groups to start with, mainly the HIPER. It's best just
to
avoid it.

17 has the co/pre requisite table corrected so the process will work
as expected.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of
Jeff Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 12:43 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: i7.3 DB Group 16 ** Do NOT Install **

Like you Paul I have both level 16 and 17 as Not Applied.

If I do DSPPTFCVR SELECT(*NOTAPY), those 2 level 16 PTFs do not show.

Do a:

DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1) SELECT(SI71241) DSPPTF LICPGM(5770SS1)
SELECT(SI71254)

and both show as Superseded.

I wonder if Larry still thinks it is dangerous to apply both 16 and
17
at the same time . . .



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