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My suggestion is if you really want everyone to know what the machine or OS
is, put it on the login screen somewhere so they see (consciously or
otherwise) what they are logging into.
< /snip >

Way back when I was doing admin as well as programming, I did do just that...

When we got our first Power system, I stylized the login screen and added a line:
"Welcome to our new IBM Power System"

Yes, it was still green screen but at least there was some indication of change.

Oh yeah... When jobs ran in a couple of seconds instead of a few minutes, the users also noticed.

Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power

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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:49 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: AS/400 vs. IBM i
 


If I apply your logic though it is a System/38 because many commands are the same and the screen looks the same.



The point about using the "right" name is more a question of avoiding having a very modern, very capable system branded as being "old fashioned" - because like it or not that is how "AS/400" is viewed but the outside world.







On Oct 24, 2019, at 3:39 PM, smith5646midrange@xxxxxxxxx wrote:



I decided to add my $.02 to this discussion but rereading this, it is more

like a buck and a half.  :)



I started programming on the AS/400 back in 92.  I didn't know what that

meant.  I was a COBOL developer learning RPG on a text based screen just

like everything else I had worked on to date.  Again, I was a programmer,

not a techie.



Years later, I am still PROGRAMMING on a text based screen.  One day I

referred to it as an AS/400 and was told it was an iSeries.  Hmmm.  Looks

like an AS/400 to me.  Again, I am a programmer, not a techie.  I'm not even

allowed in the data center to see the label on the machine.  I assume it

says iSeries but I wouldn't bet on it.  It might just say IBM.  I still

don't know the difference but I try to remember to call it an iSeries.



Then one day someone asks me what's the difference.  I'm a programmer that

has been on an iSeries for a while now but I still don't know.  It looks and

acts like an AS/400.  I didn't have to learn anything new to use it like I

had to learn when I changed from the Burroughs machine to the AS/400.  Yes,

there is new functionality but the old commands still work.  That happens

with OS upgrades but not different OS types as in Linux vs Windows vs i5/OS.



So as time goes on, I am getting better at calling it an iSeries until one

day someone corrects me that I am working on an eSeries.  Again I ask, as a

programmer, what's the difference?  As far as I know (feel free to correct

this if I am wrong), there was none and the name was really eServer iSeries

so it was still an iSeries.



Now over the years I have graduated to being a "enough knowledge to be very

dangerous" software techie.  I do a lot of "geek" stuff (not much of the

normal applications like warehousing, etc.) and some OS admin stuff.  I

still don't understand the hardware side.  The OS has been enhanced

considerably over the years.  I assume the hardware has too but not being a

hardware guy, I can't say what or how much and I don't really care.  The OS

talks to the hardware, not me.



And, the incredible part is that my old AS/400 commands still work on my

current machine.



I once asked a user over the phone if they had an icon for a particular

iSeries that we had just installed new software on.  She said no.  I thought

maybe it was a naming confusion issue so I asked about an AS/400 icon.

Again, no.  Puzzled, I walked to her desk and saw the icon was labeled

Island Pacific.



Ask most CEOs about the machine on their desk and you will get an answer

that it is a "laptop" or a "desktop".  If you ask what kind, you get an

answer of Windows or Mac (an OS name???  Interesting).  What brand?  They

don't know.  Intel or AMD and which generation?  They don't know.  MacBook

or MacAir?  They don't know.  They don't care as long as they can do their

job.  I will go so far as to say that most people (even techies) that own an

iPad can't tell you which version they have.



So, to sum this up, if you are a software guy like me, it is the OS that you

care about and not the hardware.  If you are a user, it is the app that you

care about. 



My suggestion is if you really want everyone to know what the machine or OS

is, put it on the login screen somewhere so they see (consciously or

otherwise) what they are logging into.  Maybe it will stick in their heads.

Otherwise, it is still a text based green screen that looks and feels like

an AS/400 and will continue to be called by that name until UI is perfected

and the machines reprogram us.



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