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This will be my only response to this on MIDRANGE-L unless David deems appropriate.

Jim, this is a discussion for the Open Source Forum, but I'll summarize for all Midrangers that we need stable core DB2 services for open source languages to be able to build stable apps on the box using the new open source technologies.

If anyone wants to read more on this I suggest subscribing to the open source list.

My response about RFE's and COMMON:

Don't get me started on IBM request processes and/or COMMON.

I live in the here and now where I want to get something working today or tomorrow.

Not in the maybe of 2-5 yrs out.

Case in point: Samba support. Too little too late and NetServer still causing problems.

That's why I appreciate the efforts of those who are trying to make what we currently have work and improve now rather than 5 yrs from now.

Just sayin: RFE and CAAC are nice ideas, but for core DB2 services shouldn't be required. Make the base stable so we can build a 110 story tower that won't topple.

Regards,
Richard Schoen
Director of Document Management
e. richard.schoen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p. 952.486.6802
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message: 4
date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 08:03:57 -0600
from: "Jim Oberholtzer" <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: RE: [IBMiOSS] [EXTERNAL] Re: XMLSERVICE, RPGLE & Java error

Have you submitted an RFE? Get people to vote for it?

Have you submitted it to the COMMON America's Advisory Council? (CAAC) Have you lobbied for it?

Go to the Spring COMMON POWERuP event where the IBM executives responsible for the decisions and their direct reports will be. Lobby (politely) for your cause, with the RFE and requirements already put into the system.

I get the discussion and the reasons behind it. But you are competing for scarce development dollars and you need to convince IBM they are better off spending money on this than putting new feature/function into say, DB2 or other open source projects they are working on.

This list while active and excellent is still small compared to many of the other sites out there so you need to make your voices heard. The two methods I mention above are those avenues to get IBM's attention. Ranting here might make you feel better but it's not going to achieve the end goal.


Cross posting to Midrange-L since this applies there too.


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Agile Technology Architects


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From: OpenSource <opensource-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Kelly Cookson
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:51 AM
To: IBMi Open Source Roundtable <opensource@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IBMiOSS] [EXTERNAL] Re: XMLSERVICE, RPGLE & Java error

I concur with Richard and Mark.
I hope IBM is listening to this thread.
Please give us better, officially supported tools that replace XMLSERVICE.

Thanks,

Kelly Cookson
Senior Software Engineer II
Dot Foods, Inc.
217-773-4486 ext. 12676
www.dotfoods.com<http://www.dotfoods.com/>

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