It depends on the court case (and your legal department), but we've got boxes of tapes salted away with a 2nd 7-year clock ticking away. Just In Case.
Most of the current Legal Hold tapes are from the 'network' side of the house-- eMail, text, PDFs, Word, Excel. On the iSeries side, since we don't have any of the 'human interaction' documents, Legal is satisfied with our normal permanent retention of our month-end backups.
As Jim said, it's a legal decision, not an IT decision. They tell us keep it, we keep it. And we get to charge the legal department with the cost of the replacement tapes to go back in our circulation.
Paul E Musselman
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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 4:05 PM
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Subject: RE: db2 file size limit
Legal primarily but really it's both.
If you become unable to provide the data for discovery most judges will find
the company in contempt, and potentially jail the senior leadership
depending on the severity of the situation. They might also issue a summary
judgement against the company.
That's why corporate council needs to be involved in any data retention
program.
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Agile Technology Architects
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Shore
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Hi Paul
You wrote
One more condition affecting a purge-- any data supporting any legal battles
ongoing-- which starts another 7-year-clock for that data once the case is
resolved (with any appeals, etc. etc.) I never heard of that before. Is that
a legal requirement - or a company requirement
Alan Shore
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Musselman, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 3:57 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: db2 file size limit
Jay--
I agree that everyone wants every piece of data since the beginning of time
on-line for quick access. But how active is that data? Probably not very.
We keep our month ending backups practically forever. These are now
complete Option/21 backups, so we can reconstruct the system as it existed
at that time, including the programs that can access the files.
So our goal now is to convince everyone that once Legal says the purge is
allowed, we need to purge!
One more condition affecting a purge-- any data supporting any legal battles
ongoing-- which starts another 7-year-clock for that data once the case is
resolved (with any appeals, etc. etc.)
Paul E Musselman
PaulMmn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jay Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 2:23 PM
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Subject: Re: db2 file size limit
Paul... No doubt... but every legacy shop i have worked in has been an
absolute hoarder of on-demand ANCIENT data...
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 12:39 PM Musselman, Paul
<pmusselman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Jay--
Try to convince The Powers That Be that data more than 5 years old
should be purged from the system! (:
Paul E Musselman
Paul E Musselman
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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Jay
Vaughn
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 6:33 PM
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Subject: Re: db2 file size limit
Thx Charles. We have *max4gb on our access paths so first thing we are
going to do is change them to *max1tb
Jay
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