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Re: Is there a way to replace a open display files

I didn't say it was a display file <grin>.

I know we did it with display files too - but I'm darned if I can recall exactly how. Many years and many sleeps since then ...

My best guess is that the version information included a version numbered file name and when a need to re-open was sensed an OVR was issue to the new name. That's how I would do it today and just typing this is setting off vague bells at the back of my memory.

In another similar situation we kept track in the "stamp" of the number of active users so we knew when we could actually kill the old file. Not sure it was worth the effort as simply attempting to delete them all but the latest and ignoring the lock fails would have done the job.


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On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Tyler, Matt <matt.tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

How does this method work when you only have one copy of the dspf? Usropn with out a second copy still locks the dspf so you can replace them tell jobs to reopen the dspf.

-Matt

On Sep 25, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

That was exactly what we did Rob.


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On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hmm, the user space could be a timestamp of last change. Or they could
just check the timestamp of the object itself on a periodic transaction
cycle. If it's newer then close the file and reopen it.


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To: "Midrange-L Midrange-l" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 09/25/2018 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a way to replace a open display files
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In the past, to meet a similar requirement, we had all programs declare
the file in question as being user open. Then there was a system-wide flag
that indicated that the file had changed. Each file interaction checked
the flag (user space so just memory access) and if it didn't match its
internal setting then it closed and re-opened.


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On Sep 25, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Kevin Bucknum <Kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:

If you can never get a lock, then there RFE is required. I would be
surprised if there isn't one already.

At my current job we have a window every night where we can promote
those kinds of changes, and in emergencies we just call everyone and
make them get out. At my previous job, we kept a library above the main
screen/program library. If we had to make a change we placed the
screens/programs in that library. Everyone starting a new job got the
changes. As soon as the production objects where free, we replaced them.
At the next available window, we deleted the objects in the temporary
library. This worked good because for some screens there may have been a
week or more before we got a window. Only bad thing was if for some
reason you had to make two changes.




Kevin Bucknum
Senior Programmer Analyst
MEDDATA/MEDTRON
Tel: 985-893-2550

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To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Is there a way to replace a open display files

Gents / Ladies,

I have a production environment that runs 24/365 and some displayfiles
a
always open and have this annoying lock.

So moving the display file to QRPLOBJ, delete it or rename it will not
work.

Any ideas?

Is this issue a candidate for an RFE?

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