Re: man: command not found Was: linux command question -- MIDRANGE-L

Don't need no stinkin' Linux or BSD box - got my Mac!!

(And yes I am well aware of the BSD connection)

But I agree with Jim - to suggest adding another box to the mix for the sake of it will only harm adoption rates. Frankly what is needed is what has been missing all along for PACE - good introductory guides to Unix-speak for IBM i folks. man pages are pretty useless anyway if you don't already understand the lingo.

Jon Paris

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On Jul 2, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Kevin Adler <kadler@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You really don't need a Linux or BSD box just for man pages anyway, since
those are all online eg: [1]https://linux.die.net/man/1/find
[2]https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?find(1). The same with the AIX:
[3]https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/ssw_aix_71/com.ibm.aix.cmds2/find.htm

The easiest way to find AIX man pages:
[4]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=aix+man+find

Also, explainshell.com provides a relatively decent description of the
command being executed along with each part of the command:
[5]https://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=find+.+-type+d+-depth+-exec+rmdir+%7B%7D+%5C%3B
The only thing missing is the "plain english" synopsis that Jack gave in
the first reply.

Kevin Adler
Software Development - PASE, Open Source, IBM i Access ODBC
IBM Systems, Dept 47U
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Subject: RE: man: command not found Was: linux command question
Date: Mon, Jul 2, 2018 11:36 AM

I'll take exception to the "never be rich enough to encompass all the
tools
you need". The rate of adoption is very high and it comes with the
backing
of the folks in Rochester. Since Yum installs have only been GA since
May
you might want to sit back and wait on that thought for a bit. They hit
the
low hanging fruit and will add things as demand comes along.

As to not having a Linux or BSD in the network, 80% of shops have an
aversion to adding yet another OS to support so they won't add one. And
to
be honest, I've yet to find a reason for many of my customers to have
Linux
in the mix (aside from the HMC which does not really count) and most of
them
are adopting the tooling IBM is providing.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [[6]mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jack
Woehr
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 11:22 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: man: command not found Was: linux command question

Here's why you can't find it: it's not there :)

You mean .. you dare to use Open Source ... and you don't have a Linux
or
BSD installation on your network?

The solemn truth is that the IBM i environment will never be rich enough
to
encompass all the tools you need to live in Open Source land.

You *need* a Linux or BSD box handy to support your IBM i Open Source
environment. It's indispensable if you're going down the Open Source
path.

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 6/30/2018 7:13 PM, Jack Woehr wrote:

RTFM ... 'man find' :)

I know that the subject reads 'Linux question', but since this is a
midrange mailing list I thought I'd poke my nose in and re-direct the
thread along a midrange theme.

'man' is not installed on my 7.3 system, neither PASE nor QShell.
I haven't seen how to install it, as neither 'yum install man' nor
'yum install man-pages' can find a package to install.

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