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Bring back the 80 column card. YUCK!!!!

Flat down data entry does not happen here. We don't use it and we don't have people who do that. Their jobs have moved into more and so have the applications. Yes, EDI has helped here. About 95% of our orders come in through EDI. It is the sign of the times.

GUI can be an efficient data entry model if you are aware of the tab stops and such.

Just my humble opinion.

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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Darren Strong
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 7:56 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Looking for like-minded programmers who use the enhanced features of 5250

I think a lot of people miss that the methods that people are used to are
designed around consuming media or information. You hear, "the kids out of
college only know how to use a web page." Well, those kids out of college
have been using the consumption end of the computer up until now. The
creation of information, such as data entry, hasn't been designed well in
a lot of so called modern solutions I've seen.




From: "Rob Berendt" <rob@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx>>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 06/27/2018 07:39 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for like-minded programmers who use the
enhanced features of 5250
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I know it's in vogue nowadays to say with EDI, scanning, and a host of
other alternative input that being concerned about operator efficiency is
a non issue.
I'm not in that camp.


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From: "John McKee" <jmmckee3@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jmmckee3@xxxxxxxxx>>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: 06/26/2018 11:06 PM
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I can attest to the speed of movement. Before Y2K, I saw ladies enter
data
very easily on a DOS based application. They were very proficient. The
software that replaced the DOS system was Y2K enabled. Maybe just barely,
To move from field to field, one hand moved from keyboard to mouse. Move
to next fied. Click in the box. Hand moved back to keyboard. It was
painful to watch. That version was a slap-dash implementation. It was
replaced a year later with more reasonable access. But, it was never as
quick or as smmoth as the DOS version. As bad as the initial version was,
another vendor's concept was even worse and was ten times the cost. It
seems like neither product was designed with end user efficiency in mind.

John McKee

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Kevin Monceaux <Kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:

Booth,

On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 02:54:54PM -0500, Booth Martin wrote:

They are used to mouse clicks and the mouse wheel. Isn't it time we
acknowledged this in our green screen applications?

No, nothing slows down a data entry operator more than having to reach
for
a
mouse. Encourage them to embrace the keyboard.

I am not particularly interested in lectures on the purity of the
1980s
and F-keys and why it is important to teach users that F21 is
shift-F-something and that the only way to close a program is with
F-3.

Upgrade to a PC keyboard with 24 function keys, then F21 is F21. :-)
I've
been using one like this at home:

https://www.Amazon.com/Unicomp-Model-Buckling-Spring-<https://www.Amazon.com/Unicomp-Model-Buckling-Spring->
Keyboard/dp/B01MDRT4L4

I need to invest in another one for work.



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