RE: backup to and restore from local win server

["midrange" <franz9000@xxxxxxxxx>]

I agree all these issues are critical. 
I am having to answer the question - why can't the IBM i do it like we have already done the Win systems...?
I am certainly not going to implement something that will not include the "round trip"/backup AND recovery. 
The current Win plan backs up to local server, then off to cloud. 
They have tested partial restores and plan to test full restore (and until that happens its not a tested plan..
I've recovered more than a couple systems from hardware failure , fire, hurricane, and DR tests.

We were thinking a periodic save system to tape - and that would be "the restore the system tape", followed by the user libs and select ifs directories pulled from the Win local/cloud.  Need to see how to account for new users and cfg changes, both of which can back up to SAVF. Exploring virtual optical in all this.
Jim 
  
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DrFranken
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 11:41 AM
To: PaulMmn <PaulMmn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: backup to and restore from local win server

And the related maxim: "All aircraft land, whether the plane can be flown again after the landing determines the measure of success."

Seriously this appears in a large number of by systems management sessions:

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"If you have not completely recovered your system from your backup then you do not have a backup. What you have, at best, is a box of tapes (save files, zip files etc) with stuff on them."
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         - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

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On 11/5/2017 11:15 AM, PaulMmn wrote:
> Another important consideration--  have the backup tapes ever been 
> used to restore something to the system they came from?  You can write 
> all you want, but if a tape can't be read, you're in deep doo-doo!
>
> As the saying goes-- "a submarine dive isn't completely successful 
> until the boat returns to the surface!"
>
> --Paul E Musselman
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> At 12:48 AM -0400 11/5/17, DrFranken wrote:
> > I would add "How is the local Windows server backed up?" Or perhaps: 
> > "Is the local windows server backed up?"  If it's not then this idea 
> > isn't even worth the time to consider it. Consider what happens when 
> > you have a 'smoking hole', 'swimming pool', or 'flattened pile'
> > instead of a data center, where do you recover from then?  In this 
> > situation it's no different than a customer with a tape library that 
> > holds a nice stack of tapes which they rotate through but never 
> > remove from the library. It's all very convenient but there are way 
> > too many situations where there is NO recovery option.
> >
> > Remember the name of the book is the "Backup and RECOVERY guide." :-)
> >
> >         - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
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