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No, not if your partition(s) can fit in one core. I have many customers
that have multiple partitions on one core.

Memory, there when folks upgrade you should get as much as possible, it's
cheap.


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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:30 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power 9

You also need additional processors, memory, and i5/OS licenses.

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:10 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power 9

I see virtual test partitions in the future......

Never fails to happen. It's easy fast and as long as you have the storage,
cheap.


--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
(WalzCraft) Jerry Forss
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:55 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power 9

Thanks Jim,

I have been debating on if we should to get one or not.

At THIS point it would be just a single LPAR. But the future, who knows.

I have proposed enough DASD (SSD drives and RAM) to make it possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:24 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power 9

Then there is a NEW CONSOLE in your very near future. I highly recommend
the HMC even if you only have one partition to start. Take my word for it,
it will come in handy, albeit a bit pricey.


--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
(WalzCraft) Jerry Forss
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:27 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power 9

We have a TWINAX old large tube console. :)

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
Bipes
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 9:10 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power 9

One concern I would have is the HMC. IF you are using an HMC, there is no
version that will run both a power 5 and a power 8 or above. The HMC
running Version 7 will handle a power 5 through 7 but not the power 8. An
HMC running version 8 will not communicate with a power 5. :(

Just a heads up. My business partner totally missed that when sell me new
power 8's to replace old power 5's.

Chris Bipes
Director of Information Services
CrossCheck, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
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Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:02 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Power 9

Well maybe a little. You won't be able to do a direct migration but there
are ways to get you on to the new box (at V7Rx) without too much trouble.
That's where you might want to budget for some help. Those of us who do
this all the time see it as only a bit more complicated than a regular
unload/reload.

You might help yourself now by looking at QUSRSYS and QGPL and see what
"user objects" meaning anything you created are in there, since those two
libraries really provide the most intrigue to a migration like this. Move
as many of those objects (not including out queues etc) out of those
libraries to a library of your own making in the correct position in the
library list. That'll make the migration to V7Rx much easier.


--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
(WalzCraft) Jerry Forss
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:52 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power 9

We have LTO 3's.
Going to LTO 5 will read them, just not write to them.

Yep, being at 7.1 handcuffs us a bit.


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:49 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Power 9

Try this line:
If you're open to going to going to at least 7.2 they could save a few
thousand bucks with an S812 vs an S814.
Unless you just want to growth of the S814 instead (multi lpar capability
and more).

Of course your 525 won't support anything higher than 7.1
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=ssm1platformibmi
Then again, does any newer hardware support the tape drive you're using on
your 525? Like, how are you going to migrate from that?
BTW, just what tape drive are you using?


Rob Berendt
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to: 2505 Dekko Drive
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From: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/28/2017 09:41 AM
Subject: RE: Power 9
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Well, 7.1 is a show stopper for the new S812. That requires 7.2 or 7.3, and
both with a new TR announced but not coming out until after our March
downtime.


Rob Berendt
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to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: "(WalzCraft) Jerry Forss" <JForss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/28/2017 09:37 AM
Subject: RE: Power 9
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



It took me 2 years to finally get the upgrade from 5.4 to 7.1.
Nothing will be happening today....tomorrow.... or in the next couple of
months (or longer).

I know I will be asked how much life is left in the Power 8 before the Power
9.

If I got the go ahead for the Power 8 today I do not think I would be able

to contain my excitement.

Just trying to be prepared for the questions.

Thanks!!

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim

Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:31 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power 9

Oh yea, that's like going from a Yugo to a Ferrari. The 525 is (was) a fine
box, but it's Power5 and such. Even a 4 way would be a massive upgrade
in
power.


--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob

Berendt
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 8:28 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Power 9

I am not familiar with the 525 and whether or not the new S812 will cut the
mustard for you.


Rob Berendt
--
IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail
to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: "(WalzCraft) Jerry Forss" <JForss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx)"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/28/2017 09:06 AM
Subject: Power 9
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Hi All,

Several months ago I put together a proposal to replace our i5 box
(9406-525) with a new shinny Power 8.

This proposal is going to be pushed again.

Does anyone know when the Power 9 box/config are going to be announced?
The config/pricing of a Power 9 will be different than the Power 8.

Thanks!!!!

Jerry Forss
Information Technology Team
WalzCraft
608-781-6355 EXT 2530
jforss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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