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Re: IBM Navigator for i: Disabling dashboard

Think more like Chrome extensions vs. Microsoft Sharepoint portal widgets.

For example, if somebody had a job monitor tool they could create an npm
named ibmi-jobmon on npmjs.com. That would be installable from Dash for i
and available as a menu option. When the user selected the menu option for
ibmi-jobmon it would either display the app within the Dash for i
infrastructure or run in its own web server. The latter would allow for
all types of apps to be installed, including those written in PHP, Ruby,
RPG, Java, Python, REXX, CL, etc.

In short, integration within Dash for i could be tight or simply a means to
install other software that does zero interaction after the menu option is
selected.

In short (part II), having Dash for i would make it simpler for people to
develop extensions/plugins because they wouldn't have to write the
foundational portions.


Aaron Bartell
IBM i hosting, starting at $157/month. litmis.com/spaces


On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Plugs to a web browser? Is that a thing? I've heard of plug in's to fat
clients like Eclipse.
I guess this would be like adding portal apps. The problem I see with
most of those is two fold. One, everybody wants you to use their portal
and add your apps to their portal. Not like 'this app is generic for
several portals'. Two, you get so darned much stuff in a one screen you'd
feel better off with just opening a different browser session so you can
move it to a different display, alt-tab to it, etc.

Then there's keeping up with browsers and changing expectations of the
browser experience.
Many people in our industry go into two camps.
- Don't add any new feature which won't work on IE 3.0, and can I still
use it from my Commodore 64?
- IE is dead so use the latest version of the replacement (I can't even
tell you the name) or the latest from ...




Rob Berendt
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Dept 1600
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From: Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/07/2017 09:54 AM
Subject: Re: IBM Navigator for i: Disabling dashboard
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



I agree, for those that like it, they can keep it.

Let me expound on my idea a bit more. The "Dash for i"** would have a
focus on plugins so any vendor or single programmer or community group
could add their own utility. Plugins would be hosted on npmjs.com (as are
all other Node.js plugins) and if a plugin was for-fee then there could be
a registration process the vendor/consultant built into it.


**for lack of a better term.

Aaron Bartell
IBM i hosting, starting at $157/month. litmis.com/spaces


On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Jim Oberholtzer
<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Aaron:

A community project to build an alternative to Navigator would be a nice
thing, no doubt. That would allow some flexibility in feature/function
and
maybe the ability to set up the menu to suit your individual needs,
system
admin, development, user experience, ETC. I can think of other aspects
that
would be nice too. Definitely a worthwhile project.

But I have to point out that with the notable exception of the dashboard
(which in my mind should be removed from the system then re-released
when
it
finally works) Navigator for i is an exceptional product. True there
are
some fixes for it but it touches almost every aspect of the system and
does
it well. I can give that URL to customers that have no real command
line
knowledge and they are able to do almost anything they need to without
too
much assistance. The user portions of the site make getting after spool
and
other things quite easy. I guess I'm suggesting that we don't toss out
the
baby with the bathwater.


--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Aaron
Bartell
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 8:03 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: IBM Navigator for i: Disabling dashboard

My hope is we can eventually have a community project that replaces IBM
Navigator for i. I've never worked with an admin app that requires so
much
attention (updates, fine tuning, trouble shooting, etc).

Aaron Bartell
IBM i hosting, starting at $157/month. litmis.com/spaces


On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<snip>
At this time there is no way to globally disable the dashboard from
loading on users screen. There are future plans to make this option
available. The only option you have at this time is to have each user
when they sign on to Navigator is to change the Dashboard to "Manual"
instead of "Auto" This way the next time they log on it won't try to
load the dashboard with new data and should speed things up.
</snip>


Rob Berendt
--
IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com

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