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I am honestly befuddled at the resistance from IBM and you to provide what
should be a "gimme" for a supported release.

If IBM doesn't want to do it, tell your "connections" to politely end
support for V7R1. Don't make customers go through submitting a request and
voting for it if it's not going to make one iota of difference. This isn't
a reality show. It's people trying to run their businesses.

It doesn't matter how old it is. It's supported! And these updates are
required for business to operate with the current standards.

21 votes. That has to be a new record. :)

Brad
www.bvstools.com


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:16 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

They are taking money for 'Support' but that support gets you i 7.1 or 7.2
or 7.3. Much like other vendors (e.g. Microsoft) who still 'supports' a
release but no longer provides enhancements i 7.1 is in that same mode. IBM
has stated that no more TRs are coming for i 7.1.

I believe many would say that adding support for new things would be
called an enhancement. The current level of support is to fix broken
things. All the ciphers in place are not broken. There are new and enhanced
ciphers which IBM has not added.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 12/20/2016 11:05 PM, Evan Harris wrote:

Hi Larry

I get what you say, but they are still taking money for V7R1 support (at
least that's how my customers see it) so until they end of life V7R1 they
ought to do something.
I don't expect database enhancements but SSL Ciphers does seem a
reasonable
ask.


On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 4:51 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You do realize that i 7.1 is a six and a half year old release and there
are already TWO subsequent releases which DO support these ciphers?

I for one do not expect IBM to spend tons of money supporting old
releases
when there are many new features and functions being requested every day.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 12/20/2016 10:37 PM, Bradley Stone wrote:

Doesn't surprise me at all. Why give customers what they want and need.
How would that business plan ever succeed.

I miss my AS400. :)


On Dec 20, 2016 9:32 PM, "DrFranken" <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have been told by 'people who know such things' that "IBM has no plans
to
move any of the EC Ciphers to 7.1"

I have asked for an official statement or link to a page that states
this
publicly and will pass this along when I get it.


- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.


On 12/20/2016 5:34 PM, Kevin Wright wrote:

Voted.


Regards,

Kevin Wright

Were up to 17. Thanks to everyone!

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