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Paul:

With all of my customers that run Zend Server I omit those files during the
daily saves. You will need them in a recovery, but the data in them are
used by the Zend Server for deployments and debug. Generally I will shut
down to a restricted state (monthly or quarterly) and that's the copy of
those we use for recoveries. The deployments database is the most critical,
but unless your development team is using the Zend Server Deployment
features on a regular basis, it's fairly static data.

This technique has been tested at two customers and seems to fit the bill.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: BRMS recovery report questions/issues

If you change the "can be saved" the odds are the darn things will just be
locked. I would guess that whomever changed that attribute knew what they
were doing and deemed them expendable.
Trust me, when you go to 7.2 expect to have the "can be saved" increased
into the hundreds.
Add them to the BRMS omits.

Granted, when you run your dedicated save with OMITS(*IGNORE) they will,
once again, appear on your list.

Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/28/2016 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: BRMS recovery report questions/issues
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Rob,

1) I think I found the answer.
I reran the recovery report with USEDUPMED(*YES).
Not only does this resolve the issue with the old volumes, but it also
changes the message for Step 1 and Step 2.
Reason being my current system save is from a DUPMEDBRM, not the original
volume, so USEDUPMED(*YES) changed the message.

2) The only remaining issue is to resolve
----- Attention ---------------------------------------------------
The recovery includes 000000000000029 objects which were not saved.

The count matches the count from *LINK, 29 Not saved.

Saved Save ----- ASP ------ Save Save Not
Sequence Control Volume
Item Type Name Number Date Time Saved Saved
Number Group Identifier Encrypt
---------- ------- ---------- ----- -------- -------- -------- ------
--------- ---------- ---------------------------- -------
__ *LINK *FULL *SYSBAS 00001 10/27/16 23:23:55 237625 29
262 SAVFULL05 001333

Next I searched the joblog from last night's save for CPFA09E - Message .
. . . : Object in use. Object is

Found 29 CPFA09E.
Of the 29 - 25 were www log files and other log files.
The remaining 4 which were not log files are:

/QIBM/UserData/OS400/TCPIP/NTP/QTOT20161027.
/usr/local/zendsvr/var/db/deployment.db
/usr/local/zendsvr/var/db/monitor
/usr/local/zendsvr/var/db/monitor_codetracing

Should add more omits or change Can be saved . . . . . . . . . . . . . :
No.
????

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:02 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: BRMS recovery report questions/issues

Not so sure. That may be normal.

I bring down my systems nicely. Then I do the ENDSBS *ALL *CNTRLD
DELAY(120). After I verify that the system is in restricted state I do my
STRBKUBRM. It always starts some stuff up. I suspect, even if I have
plenty of tapes on this lpar, it still wants to talk to the other lpars
and systems as part of the BRMS Network Feature. I know some TCP gets
going. This wastes a couple of minutes. Then it shuts stuff down again
and gets back into restricted state.

Keep digging.

Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/27/2016 04:42 PM
Subject: RE: BRMS recovery report questions/issues
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Maybe a BRMS timing issue.

*NONE Request 10/22/16 22:03:02.352136 QWTSCSBJ

*N QCMD QSYS 0195
Message . . . . : -STRBKUBRM
CTLGRP(SAVSYS05) SCDTIME(*IMMED) SBMJOB(*NO)
STRSEQ(*FIRST *FIRST) APPEND(*YES)
ACTIVITY(*CTLGRPATR) RETENTION(*CTLGRPATR
0035) DEV(*CTLGRPATR)
PRLRSC(*CTLGRPATR *MIN) MEDCLS(*CTLGRPATR)
MOVPCY(*CTLGRPATR) OMITS(*IGNORE)


BRM1148 Information 10 10/22/16 22:05:50.592390 Q1ACALG

QBRM *STMT Q1ACALG QBRM *STMT
From module . . . . . . . . : Q1ACALG


From procedure . . . . . . : Q1ACALG


Statement . . . . . . . . . : 229

To module . . . . . . . . . : Q1ACALG


To procedure . . . . . . . : Q1ACALG


Statement . . . . . . . . . : 229

Message . . . . : Item *SAVSYS will

be saved using serial device resources.

BRM1081 Information 00 10/22/16 22:05:51.561941 Q1ACALG

QBRM *STMT Q1ACALG QBRM *STMT
From module . . . . . . . . : Q1ACALG


5770SS1 V7R1M0 100423 Job Log PENCOR05
10/22/16 23:09:10 Page 6
Job name . . . . . . . . . . : SAVSYS05 User . . . . . . :
ICAPICTL Number . . . . . . . . . . . : 989607
Job description . . . . . . : CM_SHORT Library . . . . . : GPL


MSGID TYPE SEV DATE TIME FROM
PGM LIBRARY INST TO PGM LIBRARY INST
From procedure . . . . . . : Q1ACALG


Statement . . . . . . . . . : 229

To module . . . . . . . . . : Q1ACALG


To procedure . . . . . . . : Q1ACALG


Statement . . . . . . . . . : 229

Message . . . . : Starting SAVSYS
to devices TAPMLB01.


22:06:11
ENDSBS SBS(*ALL) command being processed.
System ended to restricted condition.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Marc Rauzier
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 4:09 PM
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: BRMS recovery report questions/issues

Le 27/10/2016 à 21:23, Steinmetz, Paul a écrit :
Here's some additional issues
If I just did a system save, why am I seeing this on the BRMS recovery
report.
Stating both LIC and OS has NOT been saved.

Are you sure that the system was in restricted state when the SAVSYS
through BRMS control group took place ?

Marc
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