Re: 'green screen' not sellable --> WE(?) are the problem -- MIDRANGE-L

I definetly will offer some alternatives based on what I have seen on this
thread. The issue is the programmers there have been there since the 1990's
and by the owners admission do not want to learn anything new. SO looking
at it from that angle. Please note that the industry knowledge they have is
significant, the learning curve to learn a new complex industry is not
trivial.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

wrote:

John,

I'm sorry you're feeling put upon, it is not our intention. Our comments
are really directed at those that do not think they should invest their own
money in themselves. In order to keep on top of things particularly in the
system administration space, we must maintain our own equipment or buy
space
on one or the depth and breadth of knowledge we need starts to dwindle, and
fast.

It's the same with developers. If a developer is not keeping up with the
latest tooling and techniques, they get left behind in a hurry. Since the
IBM i space is "greying" to say the least, it requires a doubled down
effort
to keep current.

Agile's business is growing by double digits year over year due in part to
my mania of "do unto yourself, before you do unto customer" therefore
Agile
owns and operates sufficient equipment both Intel and POWER that our
consultants have done it many times before I send them out to do it for
you.
Learning on the customer's dime may be good in the short run but it will
catch up and cause a problem eventually.

There are many venues for developers to continue to build their skills,
clearly COMMON but also a number of for profit conferences as well. All of
them require time and effort in addition to financial commitments.
Having
access to a system for education and R&D is critical to hone the skills you
learn at those venues.

Sometimes customers have sufficient horsepower to set aside development
environments for learning, and then you can latch onto those but it's
becoming more and more rare. (even as the extra horsepower and storage
continues to grow) It's in those cases where access to a system even if
you
have to pay $1200/yr. for it is well worth it.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
DrFranken
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 3:34 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: 'green screen' not sellable --> WE(?) are the problem

On 6/8/2015 4:20 PM, John R. Smith, Jr. wrote:

Since I feel I am being dogged for my comments...

Fair enough and I'm just grouchy enough today to take the bait.

Just so you know www.iDevCloud.com has been in my footer for years. So
the
next question (you knew it was coming) is how do we get the word out about
this service???

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com
www.iInTheCloud.com

I heard there were places where you could rent a "machine" but I
couldn't find any and my cohorts did not know of any either. I even
asked some sales reps at Mainline and they didn't know of any. I
finally gave in and broke down and BOUGHT a small iSeries to the tune
of $26K for a single user license so I could develop software that I
wanted to market. I would have been much happier spending $1200/year
if I could have ever figured out what to Google to find you.

As an added grouch point, since it was a single user license, I called
about adding a second user so a cohort could do some work on my
machine and it was an another $5K per user.

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