Re: PTF's doubt

[CRPence <CRPbottle@xxxxxxxxx>]

  There was indeed a recent thread started by Rob, revealing\warning of 
some INSPTF work causing PTFs to be applied counter to the apparent 
specifications; i.e. *DLYALL specified, which seemingly should not have 
had those PTFs applied.
Subject: PTF apply, DLYALL, brms ralphed.
http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/201303/threads.html#00109

  An apparent exception may be in effect for the /Delay All/ 
specification to not defer all application activity to the IPL, as I had 
alluded in a reply to that thread; i.e. "special handling PTFs":
http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/201303/msg00204.html

  Plus perhaps also something worthwhile, in another thread:
Subject: System applied unloaded PTFs
http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/201303/threads.html#00291

  Those /unloaded/ PTFs [those not-yet loaded] were downloaded into 
tracking by *SERVICE [per ordering via SNDPTFORD].  And although I have 
not yet replied to that thread, I will do so soon, alluding the 
described scenario may have been the effect of the following "What's new 
for IBM i 7.1" under the heading "What's new as of March 2011", with 
regard to "Maintaining and managing IBM i and related software" [the 
emphasis in the quoted text being mine]:
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/topic/rzam8/rzam8whatnew.htm
"On the next normal IPL, *another* Install PTF (INSPTF) command is 
performed automatically during the PTF processing IPL step in the SCPF 
(start control program function) job. The INSPTF command *loads* 
*additional PTFs* and sets *all PTFs* for delayed application. Then, a 
second IPL of the partition is performed automatically to *apply* *all* 
PTFs."

Regards, Chuck

On 30 Mar 2013 18:23, Roberto José Etcheverry Romero wrote:
> Also, Didn't Rob warn about a BRMS PTF that got applied even thought
> it should have waited for IPL and busted the save system until the
> next IPL?
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:18 PM, DrFranken wrote:
>
> > Correct BUT beware of the buried land-mine..  You now have PTF activity
> > ready for your next IPL. *If* that IPL happens when you were not
> > expecting it, it will be longer due to the PTFs. Depending on your
> > machine (HEAVILY depending on number of disk arms) it could cost you 10
> > minutes or over an hour. Just be aware of this when you pull the trigger.
> >
> >
> > On 3/30/2013 10:34 AM, Raul A. Jager W. wrote:
> >
> > > Just want to make sure, If I install PTF (option 8) but set the
> > > IPL to N (no), PTF are loaded now and installed in the next IPL?