Re: change management for ptf's

Nothing in the outfile that says "Dude, I'm a test".


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From: Jack Kingsley <iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/23/2012 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: change management for ptf's
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



If you had a dspptf at each point of that I wonder what is would have
showed.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:44 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

No. Look at this example with phony ptf #'s.
04/01/12 put on cume, groups, etc.
04/02/12 put on SF00001
04/03/12 put on SF00002
04/04/12 put on SF00003
...
How could you tell which one of the last three was a test?
And, in theory, I could have put the test ptf on before putting on the
latest cume, groups, etc. So it could even outdate that.


Rob Berendt
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From: Jack Kingsley <iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/23/2012 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: change management for ptf's
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



Just wondering, is there a way to utilize the outfile capabilities of

the

dspptf and use this in a spreadsheet at all. I haven't looked but maybe
you could see if there is an install date associated to the ptf's and

come

up with some sort of test/date trackability or something like that.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Whatever's easiest for you.... One reason you have options.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 5/23/2012 8:27 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Jim,
I order the latest cume and all latest groups to one image catalog.
Then go through all "recommended ptf's" from that site, combine that

with

what ptf's are missing or extra from each lpar (as shown by iNav)

and

put

that into another image catalog.
I can still do the 7.1 cool thing but I still don't order ptf's
individually into their own image catalog.


Rob Berendt
-- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept
1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: Jim
Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems
Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 05/23/2012

08:57

AM Subject: Re: change management for ptf's Sent by:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Rob, Now that you're at V7 (if I
remember correctly) you can use a single image catalog on one

machine

to apply to all of them. No need to copy the files around anymore.

Is

that not worth a tiny bit of overhead (which I might argue is no

more

than storing the save file in QGPL) Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical
Architect Agile Technology Architects On 5/23/2012 7:43 AM,
rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

I've never put an individual ptf in an image catalog entry. That

sounds

like a lot of overhead. But thanks.


Rob Berendt
-- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko

Dept

1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock

108

6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755http://www.dekko.com From: Jim
Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems
Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 05/23/2012

08:40

AM Subject: Re: change management for ptf's Sent by:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Rob, To the best of my

recollection,

there is no way to distinguish between a PTF that IBM is calling
"test" and one that was put out for general download. I think

your

only record keeping method is a manual one. I tend to keep PTFs

in

image catalogs separated by type: Groups/Cumulative Individual

PTFs

Test PTFs That way the image catalog is helping me track which

PTF

is

which. I also tend to fill in the text on the Image catalog

entry

with

the reason for the individual PTF be it test or otherwise. Jim
Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect Agile Technology

Architects

On

>> > 5/23/2012 7:25 AM,rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> I was recently taken to task on this list for not using

proper

change

> management for PTF's, with the person believing it would

help me

with my

> quest to find test ptf's and ensure that I do not

permanently apply

them.

>
> What would the change management for that be?
>
> We've used multiple change management systems for

programs

and that

genre

> but I'm not sure how they would handle PTF's.
>
> And, when it comes down to the original problem, would

they

help me

track

> test ptf's?
>
> I'm thinking of just adding any test ptf's to a calendar

entry that

I

have

> a few days before scheduled downtime.
>
> Oh, and I can 'never' use APYPTF LICPGM(*ALL) on any

lpar

running

Domino

> (8 out of 10). Because if I have
> Product ID . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 5733L85
> PTF
> ID Status
> L603893 Temporarily applied
> FP68531 Permanently applied
> where FP68531 is fix pack 1 for Domino 8.5.3 enabled for

6.1

and

above,

I

> have to remove hotfix L603893 before applying fix pack

2.

Domino

fix

> packs do not superceed hot fixes. Documented by IBM in

steps to

apply

> Domino fix packs.
>
>
> Rob Berendt
> -- IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group

Dekko Dept

> 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship

to:

Dock 108

> 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755http://www.dekko.com
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