Re: Virtual desktop.

Rob,

It has more to do with latency than anything else. The gig switches almost eliminate latency inside a corporate network and if you have say 12 developers all on the same switch, (the situation I had) then the switch becomes the constraint. A Gb switch eliminated the issue and all was well. If your switching equipment is newer, and has sufficient memory/backplane capacity, you won't have an issue. You'll find the network running at very low usage, until everyone refreshes the screen at one time......

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 7/7/2011 9:33 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Really? That's intense.


Rob Berendt
-- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738 Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com From: Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 07/07/2011 09:41 AM Subject: Re: Virtual desktop. Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Between the VM server and the workstation client. Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect Agile Technology Architects On 7/7/2011 8:13 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> For RDP: Was that GB between the server and the power system? Or GB
> between the server and the workstation? Or both?
>
> For the engineering: See the second cartoon below:
> http://search.dilbert.com/comic/3d%20Rendering
>
>
> Rob Berendt
> -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738
> Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755
> http://www.dekko.com From: Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx> To:
> Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date:
> 07/07/2011 08:47 AM Subject: Re: Virtual desktop. Sent by:
> midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx In my experience, the RDP users should
> be OK, but the constraint becomes the LAN connection for them. It
> almost has to be gigabit. CAD users, forget about it, it's too slow
> for the video. Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect Agile
> Technology Architects On 7/7/2011 7:17 AM,rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

>> > Exactly the same two groups of users we are concerned about.

Engineers

>> > and developers using RDP.
>> >
>> > I discussed that in one of my replies. Hopefully that answered

that.

> I'd

>> > like to know Jim's response.
>> >
>> >
>> > Rob Berendt
>> > -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett, IN 46738
>> > Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755
>> > http://www.dekko.com From: Bryce Martin<BMartin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To:
>> > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc:
>> > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>> > midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 07/07/2011 07:58 AM Subject:

Re:

>> > Virtual desktop. Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx Would this
>> > be something that can be rolled out to ALL users in the company? Or
>> > are there certain tasks that this setup doesn't work well with? How
>> > well does VMWare work with more resource intensive applications such
>> > as AutoCad? Are the developers switching as well? Thanks Bryce

Martin

>> > Programmer/Analyst I 570-546-4777 Jim Oberholtzer
>> > <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx> Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > 07/06/2011 05:02 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical
>> > Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Midrange Systems Technical
>> > Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: Virtual desktop.
>> > Yes, where it is: a) backed up regularly, b) protected from

physically

>> > walking out the door, and c) cheaper. Only C really counts.... OK,
>> > deployment of a new instance of a desk top taking about 30 seconds

is

>> > a benefit, and restoring a broken user back to functional in the

same

>> > 30 seconds is of some use. Recovering the boss's lost spreadsheet he
>> > deleted yesterday is of marginal value, etc.... Jim Oberholtzer

Chief

>> > Technical Architect Agile Technology Architects On 7/6/2011 3:20 PM,
>> > Bryce Martin wrote:

>>>> >> > What is the sentiment from the user community? Is all the

storage

>> > network

>>>> >> > storage then?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Thanks
>>>> >> > Bryce Martin
>>>> >> > Programmer/Analyst I
>>>> >> > 570-546-4777
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > rob@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> > Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> > 07/06/2011 04:03 PM
>>>> >> > Please respond to
>>>> >> > Midrange Systems Technical

Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > To
>>>> >> > Midrange Systems Technical

Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

>>>> >> > cc
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Subject
>>>> >> > Re: Virtual desktop.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Yes, VMWARE.
>>>> >> > and the skids of workstations keep arriving.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Rob Berendt
>>>> >> > -- Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive Garrett,

IN 46738

>>>> >> > Ship to: Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755
>>>> >> > http://www.dekko.com From: Jim

Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>

> To:

>>>> >> > Midrange Systems Technical

Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date:

>>>> >> > 07/05/2011 04:08 PM Subject: Re: Virtual desktop. Sent by:
>>>> >> > midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx What virtualization

software are

> you

>>>> >> > using? VMWare? Jim Oberholtzer Chief Technical Architect

Agile

>>>> >> > Technology Architects On 7/5/2011 2:52 PM,rob@xxxxxxxxx

wrote:

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > We're replacing all of our Citrix workstations

with new Wyse

> units

>> > to

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > connect using Virtual Desktop. When they are

done then we

> will

>> > start

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > replacing many existing PC's with them. I would

suspect new

> PC's

>> > will

>>>> >> > be

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > hard pressed to justify something other than the

new

> solution. I am

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > barely on the fringe of that project. Boss has

ordered a

> couple of

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > hundred of them. They're rolling in now.

They'll be

> running Notes,

>>>>>>> >>>> >> > System i Access, Office, etc. I'll let you know

how that

> works.

>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >>>> >> > Rob Berendt

>> > --

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