RE: could -cleanup- force users off system

One way to get rid of users who refuse to sign off is to set the timeout variables to automatically disconnect/idle their jobs, which returns them to a signon screen. If they return in the designated time, they can sign back on and be right back where they were when the system disconnected them.

After the jobs have been disconnected for a designated time, the job will be cancelled.

INTERACTIVE TIMEOUT SYSTEM VALUES:
QINACTMSGQ *DSCJOB Determines the action the system will take with inactive jobs.
(if can't be DSC, job will be ended)
QINACTITV 90 How long an inactive job lingers before being disconnected.
QDSCJOBITV 60 How long until disconnected job is ended.

In our case, a user has 2-1/2 hours to return to their session and reconnect.

These values are a compromise between the Auditors, who want them a lot shorter (20 minutes or less to linger; about an hour total until job is ended), and the Users, who complain that they're only away from their desks for 'a minute or two' and their jobs get cancelled.

I've always felt that the cure for people not signing off is to wait until they leave, then use their session to do something they won't like... but don't get caught! (:

Paul E Musselman
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:16 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: could -cleanup- force users off system

I shutdown QINTER before our automated nightly backups, but only after
giving any late users (not likely in our case) a chance to shutdown cleaning
(10 minutes notice; 2nd time they're toast).

But GO CleanUp itself doesn't have an option for shutting down QINTER, and
from past experience with it I doubt that it affects any subsystem. That
is, at the last place I worked we ran CleanUp daily, but I had to write the
QINTER shutdown command because some people kept leaving their terminals
logged on (which potentially impacted other things, not the CleanUp).

Jerry C. Adams
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Reeve
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:26 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: could -cleanup- force users off system

What does your cleanup do?  If you are ending Qinter (ENDSBS Qinter), then
your users will be kicked off.


Warmest Regards,

Richard Reeve

From: James Horn <jdhorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: could -cleanup- force users off system

our -cleanup- (go cleanup) starts at 10PM.  our greenscreen users are
complaining of being kicked off at 10PM.  any chance the start of cleanup
could kick users off?