Re: Email oddity -- MIDRANGE-L

Thanks Vern.

I had not done that in years. Forgot about the capability. DOOH!

John McKee

-----Original message-----
From: Vern Hamberg vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:59:30 -0500
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Email oddity

John

You can use telnet to test SMTP stuff - we have a page on our wiki that
tells you how -

http://wiki.rjssoftware.com/wiki/index.php/Manually_Sending_Standard_%26_Secure_SMTP_Test_Messages

The page tells you what to enter, but you will see responses from your
email server between commands.

If there is a problem, you should see a 5-digit number, probably, that
is the error code. On our wiki, again, you can search for that code and
get some hint of what is going on.

HTH
Vern

On 5/11/2011 3:55 PM, jmmckee wrote:

Message that>is< sent and received by Cox is produced by Outlook. Message sent via SNDEMAIL, which forwards to the email server, is just typed in.

Below is a sample. I have obfuscated part of the domain, and IP addresses. Nothing more.

While doing that, I saw in the last line:

-------------------------------------------------- 0.14 MISSING_MID Missing Message-Id: header 0.10 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS 0.50 BSF_SC5_MJ1963 Custom Rule MJ1963

Yet, I received it. Which implies my ISP is more tolerant than Cox. This was produced by the SENDEMAIL command and the API that it calls. Is that message stating what is actually wrong? And, if so, how is it fixed? Is this in the SENDEMAIL processing, or the main Windows email server?

John McKee

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To: JMMCKEE@xxxxx<JMMCKEE@xxxxx> [+]
Subject: PHI!!
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--PART.BOUNDARY.1"
X-ASG-Orig-Subj: PHI!!
X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[68.93.9.131]
X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1305139395
X-Barracuda-URL: http://24.249.116.47:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi
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X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.63446Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.14 MISSING_MID Missing Message-Id: header 0.10 RDNS_NONE Delivered to trusted network by a host with no rDNS 0.50 BSF_SC5_MJ1963 Custom Rule MJ1963
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-----Original message-----
From: Dennis iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 14:36:48 -0500
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Email oddity

How is the message being created? Is it possible to share the headers of that message (sans any personal details) with the group?

I've seen a couple of issues like this. One was at a large US Government site, that was black-listed by Verizon. Not pretty, and only a policy change at Verizon cleared it up. I don't remember the details behind the isssue - had something to do with sender domain or sending server's CNAME record, I think, though. Anyway, the apparent effect was that any mail that server sent could be received, except by VZ customers.

The other is DNS/Routing, though this is pretty rare. A DNS at one installation had invalid information for a large recipient server, like Cox.

Might want to check the spam rules and any mailbox options at the Cox site too.

Good luck.

"jmmckee"<jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I was asked, to ask, if anybody has seen this.

Guy here attempts to send an email from the i to his personal email
account at cox.net. Never gets it. He can have the i send to my
personal email and all is well. He can send an email from Outlook to
his Cox account, and that goes through as well.

I have suggested to him that Cox may be doing address verification, and
that what he has chosen for a sender name does not match, exactly, the
registered name in the mail server. The i is NOT the mail server.

Any ideas as to why a mail generated from Outlook would go through to
Cox, but not from the i?

MAILTOOL would be nice, but not likely an option.

John McKee
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