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Well I've been using linux for personal desktop as well as server use for
a few years longer than I have been working with IBM i. Yes the GUI tools
make it a bit nicer to work with, but its still not as easy as the i.
Lately I've been using Ubuntu and SSH to administer. I'm betting that the
vast majority of admins use the command line as much or more than the gui
tools, just more flexibility and control (something linux admins love).
I'd much rather administer IBM i using green screen than a LAMP stack via
shell. The OS/DB integration and all the commands used on the IBM i are
really nice. You don't get that with Linux.


Thanks
Bryce Martin
Programmer/Analyst I
570-546-4777



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Bryce, I thought LINUX was a pain to administer without the GUI, once you
start to use the the GUI it becomes much easiear.
I don't know how you could draw a comparison on the total differences
between admin duties on I 'VS' LINUX, again I am just starting to do
things
with the OS. I am talking YAST(GUI) and WEBMIN and other tools.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Bryce Martin <BMartin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I think the intangable costs that are missing is the key. The
efficiency
of the integrated OS/DB gets minimized way too much. Its magnitudes
easier to administer IBM i than it is to administer Linux/Unix with a
plethora of other DB options. And that is just one example.


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I didn't see a mention of hardware/software contracts and what these
might
cost, I would think you would want these whether SUSE or RedHat. What
about
tools to convert from DB2 to MYSQL. I just recently started working
with
LINUX and using MYSQL. I don't see allot of the midrange ERP vendors
offering LINUX ERP solutions where to convert from one platform to
another
would be as easy as flipping a switch. So is the just of all of this to
prove that the TCO of LINUX on X64 would be far less than on I, seems
like
allot of intangable costs that might be missing.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

From: Michael Ryan
And those are all reasons why i sales are through the roof, and the
industry trend is to move away from Linux/UNIX/Windows and to i.

Do I detect a bit of sarcasm, there? Therein lies the irony, and the
rub.
We
have people in our local user group who are considering migrating
their
applications to Linux. They site cost as an incentive. At least TPM
extends
himself to compare "supported" versions of Linux and open-source DB
products to
IBM i, under the rationale that most organizations would license
supported
versions.. Supported versions cost $. Seems like a reasonable
comparison.
But
my concern is that TPM throws in the extra $250/user under IBM i,
which
gives
them a robust set of desktop and server interfaces that can't be
matched
under
Linux, if I understand correctly.

-Nathan



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