Re: ifs delete

Well we know that's not true any longer or Virtual Tape images would have killed Frankie many times over!!! Those things quite rapidly go into the GB range and if I didn't get the space back upon delete things would be very bad.

I'm going along with the lock/in use problem being the most likely at this point. The question on how to check if the links are all gone MIGHT be answered by attempting to re-create the link. On the other hand it's unlikely the link would be re-constructed. rather it would create a link to a new object further obscuring the problem.

Do any of the Qp2Term utilities show you anything (like ls -la in that directory or du ??)

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

I seem to remember hearing somewhere that the space for an IFS file wasn't actually recovered to the system until the directory that used to contain the file was deleted or one of the customary space-recovering actions was taken like an IPL or RCLSTG.

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Since it doesn't exist anymore, how do I check?


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From: Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 10/07/2010 01:13 PM
Subject: Re: ifs delete
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Rob, some sort of a lock on it??

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM,<rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, it's now been a few hours since the delete and the space is still
used.

Yesterday I checked the "In Use" via iNav. It was used by some of the
jobs in this subsystem:
Curren
Subsystem/Job User
NOTES01 QSYS
ADMINP QNOTES
AMGR QNOTES
AMGR QNOTES
AMGR QNOTES
AMGR QNOTES
CALCONN QNOTES
CLDBDIR QNOTES
CLREPL QNOTES
...

So I set the debug flag off. During the night all jobs were ended when
the server "bounced". And new jobs were started.
Change date/time on the stream file was yesterday prior to the bounce.

I even ended iNav, and my 5250 session. That seemed to have no effect.

iNav doesn't incorporate some sort of "Recycle bin" does it?

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From: "Dennis Lovelady"<iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 10/07/2010 11:26 AM
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Space will actually be released when the job closes the file.

Recycle that job if possible; problem will disappear.

Dennis Lovelady
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Just ran a RTVDSKINF and a PRTDSKINF this morning.

Information collected . : 10/07/10 04:05:48
% of Size in
Description Disk 1,000,000 bytes
User libraries 30.21 1917962.92
User directories 24.60 1561945.25
Folders and documents .00 1.28
QSYS .12 7858.93
Other IBM libraries .52 33159.08
Licensed Internal Code .49 30803.56
Temporary space 2.00 126987.61
Unused space 41.87 2658119.59
System internal objects .14 8828.14
Objects not in a library .00 .00
TOTAL 99.95 6345666.36

Based on this then % used should be 100 - 41.87 or 58.13%.
I noticed a 363GB debug stream file (it was a Scan Mail for Domino
thing).
I turned off that debugging and deleted it using iNav. I verified,
via
WRKLNK, it is gone. I am thinking that should have freed up 363/6357
or
5.7%, right? Results of DSPSYSSTS
System ASP . . . . . . : 6348 G
% system ASP used . . : 58.5280
We don't use any IASP's or other ASP's.

> From a query of yesterday's RTVDIRINF data:
OBJECTNAME Object Object Bytes Data Bytes
Length Allocated Of The Object
smdext.dbg 20 402,250,530,816 402,151,724,465

Rob Berendt
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