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RE: ifs delete

Yes. Once a link has been removed, the system has no way to find it (of
course).

I still believe that a process has this file opened, and that's the reason
space is not freed. But finding that process might be tricky. I'm fairly
certain that System i lacks any inode forensics, so you'll only find it by
focusing on process-related queries, not by IFS-related queries now that
it's gone. For all I know, that process could be anything on the system,
including SCPF.

Dennis Lovelady
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health."
-- Kentucky state statute 252.130


CPDA095 - Specified path could not be resolved to any system objects.


Rob Berendt
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From: Jack Kingsley <iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/08/2010 08:35 AM
Subject: Re: ifs delete
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



Rob, how about this:

CALL QP0FPTOS PARM(*LSTOBJREF '/ifspath/ifsfile' *FORMAT2)

Will create a dumped spoolfile of info on any locks.

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:56 PM, jim t <jim_t_59@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I just removed 1TB of objects from the IFS and the space was
available
immediately.






----- Original Message ----
From: "Harman, Roger" <Roger.Harman@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 2:33:15 PM
Subject: RE: ifs delete

Not true. I've deleted PTF images and the space comes back right
away.
Last
time was about 20gb.
V5R4

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Dan Kimmel
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 11:12 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: ifs delete

I seem to remember hearing somewhere that the space for an IFS file
wasn't
actually recovered to the system until the directory that used to
contain
the
file was deleted or one of the customary space-recovering actions was
taken
like
an IPL or RCLSTG.


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 12:26 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: ifs delete

Since it doesn't exist anymore, how do I check?


Rob Berendt
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From: Jack Kingsley <iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/07/2010 01:13 PM
Subject: Re: ifs delete
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Rob, some sort of a lock on it??

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, it's now been a few hours since the delete and the space is
still
used.

Yesterday I checked the "In Use" via iNav. It was used by some of
the
jobs in this subsystem:
Curren
Subsystem/Job User
NOTES01 QSYS
ADMINP QNOTES
AMGR QNOTES
AMGR QNOTES
AMGR QNOTES
AMGR QNOTES
CALCONN QNOTES
CLDBDIR QNOTES
CLREPL QNOTES
...

So I set the debug flag off. During the night all jobs were ended
when
the server "bounced". And new jobs were started.
Change date/time on the stream file was yesterday prior to the
bounce.

I even ended iNav, and my 5250 session. That seemed to have no
effect.

iNav doesn't incorporate some sort of "Recycle bin" does it?

Rob Berendt
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From: "Dennis Lovelady" <iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/07/2010 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: ifs delete
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



Space will actually be released when the job closes the file.

Recycle that job if possible; problem will disappear.

Dennis Lovelady
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dennislovelady
--
A chicken is an egg's way of making more eggs.


Just ran a RTVDSKINF and a PRTDSKINF this morning.

Information collected . : 10/07/10 04:05:48
% of Size in
Description Disk 1,000,000 bytes
User libraries 30.21 1917962.92
User directories 24.60 1561945.25
Folders and documents .00 1.28
QSYS .12 7858.93
Other IBM libraries .52 33159.08
Licensed Internal Code .49 30803.56
Temporary space 2.00 126987.61
Unused space 41.87 2658119.59
System internal objects .14 8828.14
Objects not in a library .00 .00
TOTAL 99.95 6345666.36

Based on this then % used should be 100 - 41.87 or 58.13%.
I noticed a 363GB debug stream file (it was a Scan Mail for
Domino
thing).
I turned off that debugging and deleted it using iNav. I
verified,
via
WRKLNK, it is gone. I am thinking that should have freed up
363/6357
or
5.7%, right? Results of DSPSYSSTS
System ASP . . . . . . : 6348 G
% system ASP used . . : 58.5280
We don't use any IASP's or other ASP's.

From a query of yesterday's RTVDIRINF data:
OBJECTNAME Object Object Bytes Data Bytes
Length Allocated Of The Object
smdext.dbg 20 402,250,530,816 402,151,724,465

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