Re: Change management systems

[Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tim

The exact same compiler is used for both - the compiler on the i. WDSC 
is, after all, a client to the i. It is not a compiler, only something 
that calls a compiler. And I'm waxing far to long on this!!

There IS a verifier in WDSC, which is meant to take some of the CPU load 
off the i until you are ready to actually create the object in question.

I agree with you and Scott - Scott said more succinctly what I've been 
trying to say in every post I've placed here in this thread. I learn new 
things about SEU very often - it's a very rich development environment. 
And copy/paste is always there in the emulator.

'Nuff said - have a great weekend.

Vern

Timothy Adair wrote:
> Thank you Scott!
>
> Finally, someone cuts through all the opinions (on both sides) and gets to 
> the heart of the matter.
>
> If programmer ABC writes the program in SEU/PDM and programmer XYZ writes it 
> in WDSc/RDi, and the user sees and runs the exact same program, who cares 
> which programming environment it was written in?  (Pardon the bad grammar.)
>
> Perhaps we need to remember that our primary purpose as developers is to 
> support the user.  Period.  Every user - from the data entry operator to the 
> CEO.
>
> Now that I'm done ranting, allow me to ask a question.  Does compiling the 
> same source in PDM produce the exact same object as compiling it in 
> WDSc/RDi?
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>
> "Scott Klement" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
> news:mailman.14503.1268429052.2580.midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   
> > Technically, PDM and SEU are not the same thing.  But, PDM calls SEU when 
> > it needs to edit code.
> >
> > They both come together as part of a package named ADTS. (Application 
> > Development Tool Set) along with a few other things.
> >
> > Personally, I think the advantages of WDSC/RDi/RDP over PDM/SEU are being 
> > constantly overstated in these forums.  There are certainly some things 
> > that RDi does better, like copy/paste, outline view, syntax highlighting.
> >
> > But these things aren't the ultra-awesome, revolutionary things that folks 
> > in these forums make them out to be.  Yes, copy/paste is better in RDi, 
> > but I could still do it in SEU, and I could do it pretty well. Yes, 
> > outline view is useful, but searching out what I'm looking for also works. 
> > Yes, syntax highlighting/coloring can be nice, but I can read my code okay 
> > when it's all one color.
> >
> > Personally, I think the user interface seen by the USER is far more 
> > important than the interface seen by the DEVELOPER.
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