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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-
bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:40 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: SAVSYS & Break Messages - V5R4
Cindi,
Find an old PC, and make that your operations console, you will love
it once it is set up. I always put two Ethernet cards in it, one to the
company network, and the other directly connected to an Ethernet port on
i5. I don't want anything (routers, switches) in between my console andRestricted
400.
This is a message in your job log because you have libraries/objects
that can't be saved. You need to find out what they are and fix them.
Damaged objects, objects locked (not likely when you are doing a
Save). Once you fix why the problem is happening then you won't get thesudden
message. Have you run a RCLSTG lately (always a good idea). Do you have
hardware problems that are causing objects to become damaged?
Funny story on damaged objects: I once got called into an AS/400
shop because of damaged objects. They moved the machine and all of a
they were getting problems. I told them moving a machine from one side ofpoint
the building to another doesn't cause damage unless you rolled it from
A to B. They were on V4R3. Since some of the objects were parts of theOS,
I needed to find his latest Full System save. He hands me a tape, and Iput
the tape into the machine, and about 5 minutes later I hear the UPS alarmgo
off and I look over and the machine is off. There is power, but themachine
is off. I am trying to figure out what made the machine just go down. Ofon
course, this was like just pulling the plug the machine goes down hard. I
get the machine back up, and start looking to do a restore of the OS/400
parts and I get a not found on tape. Display the tape, and I can see it
the tape. Try this again, and again not found. I further look into this,then
and realize the tape he gave me was V4R1, although it was his last full
system save. We have to go to the release CDs to fix the problem, and
reinstall the PTFs. Everything is fine after these reinstall, and I havethe
him immediately do a full system backup. Two days later I am at the
account, standing next to the operators small refrigerator when the fax
machine gets an incoming fax, it starts to warm up (old fax machine with
paper on a roll and it would burn the image into the paper), and then the
UPS alarm kicks in, and the 400 goes down. The operator had moved the
machine, and plugged his refridge into the UPS along with the fax machine,
and every time they received a fax when the refridgerator was running it
overloaded the UPS and crashed their machine. Each time they would get
damaged objects. He was never able to get a full system save because of
damaged objects, so he just gave up.list
Pete
Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions
http://www.itechsol.com
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cyndi Bradberry
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:43 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: SAVSYS & Break Messages - V5R4
List,
We attempted an unattended SAVSYS this weekend. Our default is to not
break for messages during the back-up.
Define Save System and User Data Defaults
Type choices, press Enter.
Devices . . . . . . . . . . . ULT Names
Prompt for commands . . . . . N Y=Yes, N=No
Check for active files . . . . N Y=Yes, N=No
Message queue delivery . . . . *NOTIFY *BREAK, *NOTIFY
Start time . . . . . . . . . . 23:15:00 *CURRENT, time
Vary off network servers . . . *NONE *ALL, *NONE
Unmount file systems . . . . . N Y=Yes, N=No
More...
F3=Exit F12=Cancel
And yet, the system sat and waited at a break message, CPF3777 to let
us know that there were 2 libraries partially saved ! I discovered this
Sunday morning when I tried to VPN into my system and TCP was not
running. I ended up making a trip to town to answer the message and
allow the system to complete the save.
In talking to my system administrator today, he said this was the third
time this halt had happened. He had thought he hadn't set the message
queue properly before and so had triple checked things this time.
Has this happened to anyone else ? I'm off to search thru the APAR's &
PTF's.
TIA,
Cyndi B.
Boise
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