RE: Backup - revisited

If I followed everything they actually attempted to do a "scratch
upgrade" from a V5R2 save to an already working V5R4 box.

The M$ equivalent would be installing software by restoring the Program
Files directory. The difference is that if done properly this would
have worked!

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
Senior IBM Support Specialist
Fiserv Midwest


-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Harris [mailto:spanner@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:04 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Backup - revisited

Hi Michael

It's not that difficuly and it's well documented in the Backup and
Recovery Guide. Look for "Previous Release-to-Current Release Support".
You also need to do a RTVSYSINF and UPDSYSINF to transfer system values.

I'd have to agree with Pete - I'm amazed this guy managed to get
anything working. Just shows how solid I5/OS really is to still be able
to run at all after that.

Regards
Evan Harris

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Crump, Mike
Sent: Thursday, 4 September 2008 2:07 p.m.
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Backup - revisited

Got it - when you said upgrade I was assuming something other than
install.

Makes perfect sense now. Thanks. Hope I never have to do it.... :-)

Michael Crump

Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers, Inc.
1509 S. Macedonia Ave.
Muncie, IN 47302

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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:48 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Backup - revisited

Mike,

The lic and i5/OS base will be at V5R4, but all the licensed
programs (5722-WDS, 5722-TCP, 5722-DG1, etc) will be at V5R2 (since you
did the RSTLIB *NONSYS, you restored all those Q* libraries). At this
point you do a GO LICPGM and do an install (option 11, not sure without
a screen in front of me) and then run through the list and put a "1"
next to every licensed program and option you wish to install.
Afterwards, install the PTFs, and you have a good V5R4 system.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Crump, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:58 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Backup - revisited

Pete,

You had me until you mentioned "Then you do an upgrade to the licensed
products". How would you do that upgrade?

I'm just to0 darn boring and do the normal upgrade paths one release at
a time....

I think you are right about your evaluation.....



Michael Crump

Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers, Inc.
1509 S. Macedonia Ave.
Muncie, IN 47302

765.741.7696
765.741.7012 f



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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pete Massiello
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:14 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Backup - revisited

Mike,

We do this 5.2 to 5.4 type of upgrade for unsupported hardware
all the time, so it is something that we are very comfortable with, but
you need to understand a lot of issues as Chuck was alluding to in his
note earlier today. One of which is that you aren't bringing over QSYS,
as that is already on the machine with LIC, but nothing else. Then you
just restore.
You have a 5.4 machine with LIC and QSYS and nothing else, you restore
the User Profiles, Config, NONSYS (which includes QUSRSYS will see back
level in GO LICPGM), the DLO, and the IFS, Then do a RSTAUT. Then you
do an upgrade to the licensed products to get everything back to V5R4,
allowing INZSYS (and INZBRMPRD to run if you have BRMS) and everything
is ready to roll.
Don't forget the PTFs & Object conversions. But any changes to objects
on the source machine that were in QSYS are lost and don't come across.

So, here is the SA who doesn't understand GO SAVE 21 but he is
trying to restore onto another version. This guy was *SCREWED before he
plugged the machine in. No, wonder things didn't restore correctly. I
am amazed he got as far as he did.

JMHO
Pete

Pete Massiello
www.itechsol.com