Someone is spewing FUD.

I have personally restored a system using an option 21 restore on a tape
created with a SAVSYS, SAVLIB *IBM, SAVLIB *ALLUSR, SAVDLO, and SAV. I
did use the Prompt for commands: YES, and did not try it with a NO.
This was on V4R5 or V5R1.

This is the display of the beginning of an Option 21 Save at V5R4:

File
Data File Label Sequence
QFILEIML 0000000001
QV5R4M0L00.L2924 0000000002
QFILESCR 0000000003
QIAM400 0000000004
QFILELDS 0000000005
QFILEMCD 0000000006
QV5R4M0L00.L2924 0000000007
QFILEIPL 0000000008
QFILEIN 0000000009
Q5722SS1540M.0001 0000000010
Q5722SS1540M.0002 0000000011
Q5722SS1540M.0003 0000000012
...

And this is the display of the beginning of a SAVSYS tape at V5R4:

QFILEIML 0000000001
QV5R4M0L00.L2924 0000000002
QFILESCR 0000000003
QIAM400 0000000004
QFILELDS 0000000005
QFILEMCD 0000000006
QV5R4M0L00.L2924 0000000007
QFILEIPL 0000000008
QFILEIN 0000000009
Q5722SS1540M.0001 0000000010
Q5722SS1540M.0002 0000000011
Q5722SS1540M.0003 0000000012
...

When your SA states that "at the end, it failed." he needs to be a bit
more specific. You can receive a failure message for many reasons that
may or my not affect the operation of the system, i.e. CPF3773 - nnn
objects restored. nnn not restored to &4.

So the question is "What specifically did not work?" Did some
proprietary application fail to start properly after the restore?
Obviously the base O/S restored and he was able to sign on or there
would have been no option 21 restore to perform. Is your SA running the
save and restore using a profile with enough authority to do perform
those functions successfully? Is the save completing successfully or
does your HBOC BBACKUP put a MONMSG CPF0000 at the top?

At:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=174805&tst
art=30 there is a very good discussion of an Option 21 restore being
successfully performed on a DUPTAP of an Option 21 save, with libraries
omitted.

Regards,

Scott Ingvaldson
Senior IBM Support Specialist
Fiserv Midwest


-----Original Message-----
From: John McKee [mailto:jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:13 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Backup - revisited

I apologize for not being able to continue the former thread. Don't
have access to that email.

Just had a rather testy meeting that included the system administrator.

What I learned does not make a lot of sense to me. Hopefully, somebody
can clarify this for me:

The SA attempted to restore a backup performed via HBOC BBACKUP command
to a bare system. The SAV commands used were SAVSYS, SAVLIB *NONSYS,
SAVDLO, and SAV. He said at the end, it failed. HBe spent several
weeks in contact with IBM and was told that the individual commands did
not include metadata, required to bring the system back.

When I asked him what that data included, he got defensive and hostile.
I did point out to the group a page from the infocenter indicating
exactly what was saved by GO SAVE option 21. The SA then volunteered
that even using GO SAVE 21 did not result in a functioning system, again
due to missing metadata.

So, can anybody explain what is missing and how to fix it?

John McKee



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