Re: drinking the koolaid WAS: Latest EGL Features

[Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>]

No grinding here. Don asked. I answered.


On 5/2/08 1:07 PM, "Josh Diggs" <JDiggs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Trevor,
> Is there a less public place you can grind this axe?  There must be a more
> productive way you can find to disagree with Joe.  It sounds to me like he is
> a fan of a tool that you are not, do the rest of us really need to know the
> historical peeves and offenses?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 7:24 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: drinking the koolaid WAS: Latest EGL Features
>
>
> Don,
>
> I have seen the Joe Pluta version of the EGL ("extraordinary tool") koolaid
> in person. I have read over and over the EGL koolaid that Joe Pluta "sells"
> on midrange-L. None of it makes me want to use EGL.
>
> On top of that, Joe Pluta SLAMMED me here for my support of SOA - many
> times. He now embraces SOA (claiming EGL is SOA) - that being a complete
> turnaround from his previous perspectives, without recognition that he has
> changed his position, and without apology. On top of that, he embraces other
> positions which he once lambasted as untenable. When I listen to a speaker
> talk on a subject, I want passion, but I don't want someone who has strongly
> represented a different side of the argument previously, without
> explanation. 
>
> I understand you are trying to embrace EGL at the DC users group, but having
> a koolaid session does very little for the adoption of EGL. It certainly may
> be an entertaining session! I could tell you what you need, but I am afraid
> of Joe Pluta threatening to sue me.
>
> Maybe the DC users Group should ALSO have a big picture version of
> Modernization that is not sponsoring any particular flavor? I know someone
> who does that..
>
> Trevor
>
>
> On 5/2/08 9:52 AM, "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Trevor,
> >
> > Sounds like you need to attend the one-day seminar that the DC users Group
> > is sponsoring this month:
> >
> > http://www.wash-midrange.org/seminars/pluta0805.shtml
> >
> > DR2