Re: HR/Payroll Systems -- MIDRANGE-L

Ah... well when giving them a price, make sure to add in the months of work
to convert over. If this is a Windows solution, make sure to add in the cost
of downtime. Then price out the cost of your programmers (if you have that
skill set) to write a web front-end to whatever they want.

From what I have heard about Lawson on Windows AND Unix, it isn't as stable

as it is on the System i. I can't say for sure with any other system, but I
could only imagine similar problems with large and complex payroll systems.

On Dec 31, 2007 9:42 AM, Leibowitz, Larry <Larry.Leibowitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

That's exactly it Mike. Being we are a Small/Medium Size Company with
about 125 Corporate Employees and roughly 1000 Branch Employees and I am
not quite sure of our annual Corporate Income since we a privately owned
and I am not privy to that information. We currently use one of the
vendors mentioned below and they are indeed too pricy for us to enable
their Self Service/Web Enabled offering. So on to a Windows Based/SQL
Server Type of product HR/Payroll will lead us into. The gist of this is
exactly what Paul has eluded to "HR was enamored with being able to use
a mouse".

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:27 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: HR/Payroll Systems

They could do stuff like request vacation, see their check stubs,
request
changes to address, deductions, direct deposits. Basic stuff, but items
that
take up a lot of payrolls time in large companies.

Infinium (or SSA Global) and Lawson Software had some decent solutions,
but
you might find that while your package is quite expensive, moving to a
new
application will be more so. Possibly system upgrades as well.

Depending on your shop, maybe you just want to write it yourself.

On Dec 31, 2007 9:19 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I am curious as to what the employee could self service? Don't assume
anything. Like, if their name doesn't match their Social Security

card

EXACTLY when you send in your W2 information electronically then you

could

be fined $50/W2. At least that's the way it was back in the dark ages
when I worked on the payroll system. Must be somewhat still in force

as

they made us drag out our SSN cards not too long ago to verify

spelling.

Maybe Direct Deposit information?
401K contribution?
Income tax deduction?
List of dependents?
Emergency contact information?
Life insurance beneficiary?
Address?
Phone #(s)?

Rob Berendt
--
Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com

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Subject
HR/Payroll Systems

Our HR/Payroll Department is considering moving from our current

System

i Software Vendor to a more Employee Self Service/Web Enabled Product.
Our current System i Vendor offers the Employee Self Service/Web

Enabled

Product but at a much Larger Cost. HR/Payroll would rather switch than
pay this cost. Does anyone have any suggestions on a lower cost
HR/Payroll Application on the System i with the Employee Self
Service/Web Enabled features? Other wise it's another application loss
off of our System i and this does not bode well for me; the System i
Administrator/Application Guy.

TIA.

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