It blows my mind that you ignore all the good advice, find one small nit,
and pick it.

Of course, you don't jeopardize your career! There are people, however, who
can spend time on the side to do something they were told not to do - say,
WDSc, and after researching in their own time, return to their boss with a
true productive means to reduce maintenance, and offer it. Showing the boss
something you did that helps the business, will determine their commitment
to the business or to their personal whims. At that time, you can decide if
you spent that time "risking" your job - you made a play, and if it works,
great. If not, get another job. And tell them that you were a leader in IT,
but your previous boss was not, and you appreciate the opportunity to work
with a company with the right approach. Simple.

The problem is, there are a lot of people in management who have their own
agenda. If you want to work for them, fine - just stop whining that you
cannot do anything. You ALWAYS can - you just have to risk a little.

As for modernization for the sake of modernization, that is certainly the
approach you can hear from vendors. On this list, no one seems to advocate
that - you must be reading something between the lines that is not there.
There are many business reasons to modernize, and if you use the excuse that
you should not, because everyone is just saying "do it", then your business
brain is not engaged.


On 10/8/07 6:51 AM, "Stephen.Raby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<Stephen.Raby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

6. Ignore the "boss" who tells you to keep using SEU+PDM and risk your job
on becoming more productive at coding - leading to reduced maintenance. If
you lose your job, complain here - or apply to the places that complain
here all the time that there are no resources available.

Is this for real? You advise someone to risk their job by ignoring what
their manager said? And when they up sticks and move their family to
another town 400 miles away to where there are jobs available then get
asked "Why did you leave your old job?"

"Oh I didn't agree with my manager so I ignored him and did my own thing!"

Will his new prospective boss say "Great, I will hire you now at double
your old wage!"? I doubt that very much, more likely they will think well
he will not do as I tell him either so sod off! Another family on the
bread line

I see you put REDUCED maintenance not no maintenance, so we will still
need to maintain these programs that the poor guy has just lost his job
over. Are we talking business needs or programmer ego here? Yes it would
be wonderful to re-write these old programs, but how many hundreds,
thousands, MILLIONS are we talking about? And of course we will still need
maintenance as you say so what then? Another re-write??

Most business's that I have come into contact with already see the IT
department as a 'Black Hole' where their money disappears into and see
very little come out, the report they got before the expensive upgrade
still looks like it did and still comes out on a Wednesday morning like it
always has. So what benefit have they got? (I am only repeating things I
have heard many times over). Most have a budget to develop new stuff but
most have to maintain things as well, and of course lets not forget one
thing, much as we would like the computer is not here as a personal toy
for us to play on, it/we have one purpose and one purpose only, to serve
the business, and like eveything we have to pay our own way.

Forgive me if I am wrong but a good deal of people on this forum seem to
be advocating change because it is new and lets do it ALL NOW!!! Well,
again forgive me, unlike some of these people I happen to live in the real
world where every department in a company has to fight for its money and
in most cases "the programmer wants to learn something new and therefore
wants to re-write the whole system" doesn't quite have the necessary
ummpph to sway the people in control of the budget! More likey another
offshore support company will get a new contract.

I would not advocate that anyone ignore their managers instructions,
register you objections, make sure you can back them up, but do your job!


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