Re: When an AS/400 is called an iSeries

Trevor:

I think my "Series i" blunder (although affected by sleep deprivation at
least in part) points out what is, to me at least, the biggest problem
with the name changes. It is *NOT* the frequency, which is well within the
normal range (perhaps even less often than some other members of the
genre). Rather, the problem is that the current names -- even taken in
isolation -- seem to be inherently confusing.

For example, the operating system is "i5/OS". The server name is "System
i5". The platform family is "System i". Yet it is suggested, sometimes
emphatically, that a machine that was built as an "AS/400e" running
"OS/400" (our Model 720) has somehow morphed -- first into an "iSeries"
and then into a "member of the System i family" -- if I've got that right.
Interestingly, that same machine actually *is* capable of running "i5/OS"
even though -- again I venture what I think is correct -- the Model 720
does not run on a Power 5 chip.

In the "other world" the operating system nomenclature is completely
separate from the CPU nomenclature. M$FT's "Windows" in its various
incarnations cannot be confused with the chip it is running on by anyone
paying the least attention: 80286, 486SX, Pentium, Athlon, Turion, and a
host of others. Ditto for Linux and Mac/OS. Even where there is a close to
one-to-one relationship, the naming distinction is maintained. It may not
make the computer any better, but it sure helps keep the discussion
clearer, IMHO.

Beauty is as beauty does, and we have a beautiful platform to work with;
but ugliness is in the i....

Darrell

Darrell A. Martin - 630-754-2141
Manager, Computer Operations
dmartin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 06/11/2007 09:38:57 AM:

Aaron,

1. AS/400 - original name from 1988 to 2000
- modified with AS/400e
2. iSeries - from 2000 to 2006
- modified with eServer
3. System I - from 2006
- server name System i5

Two, and only, two changes to the name, lots of farting around with
modifying it.


I know it sounds like I am not in partnering mode, but it seems like

there

are so many people who are STILL complaining about the name change. My
frustration obviously shows. I make no apologies for that, since it

seems

this forum is full of misinformation and the spreading thereof. Darrell,

for

example, is active on this forum, and thought it was called a "Series

i".

It really is easy. The brand is System i - the servers are i5, iSeries

and

AS/400. We are family.


As for the partnering... Where is it? Agreeing or debating on a public

forum

is easy, but it is not partnering. iSociety had a video contest

recently,

and only a few people came. Everyone seems to want to put their two
complaint cents in, but it is so hard to get people to contribute

ANYthing..

I know that few of us have time to spit outside of our normal

maintenance

programming jobs and emailing midrange-L, but without a little effort

this

platform of ours is going away. I don't want to see that. My frustration
comes in the misinformation being spread, the complaints about the

"many"

name changes, the willingness to talk but not act....

And how many people have actually told someone else about the System i
outside their IT department? How about your company management? We have

been

given a new brand name for the best platform on the planet, and if

someone

does not agree with that particular name, or is not willing to

understand

it, they stick with the name that will take them to their IT grave

early.

Send me ANYthing! I will find a place to post it, and we can spread the
word. I have been swamped myself in moving to a new state and a new job,

but

am starting to catch up. You can post to www.i4everyone.com - marketing
ideas galore. If you have other stuff, you can post it to
www.ibitsandpieces.com (which reminds me, where is that i-i-i-i ring

tone I

created.. I must post it). And, you can send me stuff for posting at
www.angustheitchap.com.

If not to me, find a place to post it and make some noise about it. My
campaign is "make some noi5e!" No noi5e, no i5.

Or, sit behind your desk and program in between writing emails.
Your choice.
Your future.

Trevor
~~~~~~
www.angustheitchap.com
AS/400 is dead. Long live the System i.
Get off your Green/AS.

P.S. Aaron, the "you" to whom I am referring is the generic - not the
specific.



On 6/11/07 9:48 AM, "albartell" <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Trevor said: "This is twice. In 18 years."

You posted incorrect information to a public forum. Michael and I

were

simply correcting you.

I think a lot of us want to partner with you and your endeavors, but

you

just aren't in partnering mode - you are in "beat them with the 'name
stick'" mode. Again, you have a great campaign going on, but there

are

parts that just don't sit well when you are trying to create forward

motion

in the community.

Thanks,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:33 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: When an AS/400 is called an iSeries

The "number" of names is a poor excuse for not accepting the current

brand

name.

"Look at poor us, what we have to endure with all these name

changes..."

Just a cop-out for those who dislike change.


Get off your Green/AS!
http://angustheitchap.com/Angus/GreenAS.gif

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