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I've been a lurker on this list off and on for more than a decade. There is a lot of good information exchanged on this list. However, I've noticed a trend that reminds me of the OS/2 community as IBM prepared to kill that product.

OS/2 was a product I really liked. At the time it was years ahead of anything MS had to offer. It had many features I used everyday that haven't been added to any other OS. If anyone complained about some aspect of OS/2 they were often rudely invited to "leave". This sort of zealotry is so profoundly offensive that I am truly sorry to find its way onto this list. Anyone who is a proponent of a product like the System i and forgets that it is a tool to solve problems and get work done is truly missing the point. Like any complex tool it will be improved by discussion and analysis of it's shortcomings, not by advocates shunning anyone who disagrees.

I believe that System i is an insanely great tool for solving a wide range of business problems. I would be truly sad to see the product and the community of users who support it go the way of OS/2.

Jim Blizard

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Larry Bolhuis
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:07 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Backup strategy

Lukas.

Please leave our platform. It obviously does not work for you and I am puzzled as to why you continue to run it with it's massive flaws, ugly hacks, and incomplete capabilities. Clear Windows has everything you would ever need in an operating system. Please enjoy it and I hope tt will never fail you.

With your last comment I would recommend you apologize to the hundreds of fine folks in Rochester who put their heart and soul into this operating sytem. That is an INSULT and you should retract it forthwith.

- Larry

Lukas Beeler wrote:
BRMS console was a nasty hack that required manual interaction with
the
system - thus, completely unusable for deployment. With V5R4, BRMS can
finally do all the stuff on it's own.
Quote:
However, you must start the console monitoring function on the system
console prior to leaving the machine to operate in unattended mode.

SWA is, for all intents and purposes, unusable - it has complicated
requirements for restores and also doesn't work correctly with legacy
programs that are not transaction safe. Thus, SWA is not an option (at
least for us).

And hey, Windows can do all this without any downtime, and without any
special configuration or waiting for V5R4. IBM is just lazy.



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