Re: AW: Connecting to NetShare with Vista boxes...problem continues

Lukas,

I agree, we do not have a professional infrastructure,
as I said, this particular network is extremely
vanilla.

So is the answer a definitive NO that vista will never
work for a netshare on v5r1? Or is the "answer" that
we're "lazy" for having a machine with v5r1, or not
having a windows server just for this small 10 node
testing network a way of saying you aren't sure but
you think we are lazy?

--- Lukas Beeler <l.beeler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Chad,

The problem you're having is because you do not have
a professional network infrastructure.

Your System i is running a version of OS/400 that is
no longer supported by IBM. V5R1 is completely
outdated, and a 270 runs V5R4 - so the only problem
you have is lazyness. Windows 98 and Windows 2000
are also out of Mainstream support, i presume you do
not have an extended support agreement with
Microsoft for these operating systems.

Netserver has always been rather finicky with a lot
of problems (e.G. Security Settings still can't be
managed from the Client) - you should really use a
Windows Server for Windows Clients (a Domain has
several management advantages).

Accessing shares from Vista Machines on a V5R4
machine works, and one possible solution was already
proposed to you (using Group Policies, you could
roll out these changes globally on your network
without hassle).

Support is always interesting, you get OEM support
from Dell (which is usually severely limited). If
you want direct support from Microsoft, you can
either go on a case-by-case basis (150US$ for an
electronic support case), or you can buy a support
agreement. This is a bit different from IBM where
the software support is included in your SWMA.

It's also always a good idea to have a Windows Guy
deal with such problems - you will need network
monitor or a similar tool to figure out why exactly
authentication is failing.

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Von: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx im Auftrag von
Chad Carroll
Gesendet: Do 31.05.2007 00:30
An: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Connecting to NetShare with Vista
boxes...problem continues



Hello all,

Awhile ago I posted on the PCTECH list that I was
having problems accessing a shared drive on our
iSeries with new Vista machines. I finally have
found
some time to delve back into this issue and am once
again not succeeding.

A quick summary, we have 3 brand new Dell's running
Vista Business, all current with updates. I have all
of the Vista "enhancements" turned off, there does
not
seem to be any security getting in the way. These
boxes are reaching internet, sharing with each
other,
and sharing with older 2000 and XP machines that are
in the office without issue.

Our internal iSeries is a 270 running v5r1 that we
have run our office share off of for many years.
This
is an extremely vanilla network. No domains, no
enhanced security, or anything that should get in
the
way. Every win98, win2000 and winXP machine that we
have had in this office will connect to this share
in
a matter of seconds.

The Vista boxes will not connect to this share. I
can
ping the machine name, telnet, 5250, and ftp to this
machine fine. But no netshare. The 270 happens to be
out dhcp server as well, and the vista machines get
an
IP no problem. I have tried all machine and user
naming conventions you can imagine and this does not
help

I have just as of today finished with the most
current PTF CUM and Hypers on this v5r1 machine
hoping
that was the issue. All of these installed
successfully, but they did not fix the issue.

Now to make it more confusing is that we have an
external 800 running v5r2 that we can connect to
through firewall ip filtering, but this is still
very
vanilla, no VPN. From these vista machines I CAN
EASILY connect to the Net Share that we are running
on
the 800. File transfer works like a charm, no issues
at all.

From what I have looked at the netshare on the two

machines are set up identically simple. I can not
see
any server side settings that would prevent this.
The
vista machines will pop up saying "unexpected
network
error" but if you diagnose it, Vista tells you
everything is fine.

So, any of you out there getting Vista to access
your
shares on a v5r1 machine? Anything different between
v5r1 and v5r2 that I missed that could be causing
this
issue? This is either impossible, or I am missing
something so simple it's ridiculous.

Sorry for the long post but we are sort of at a loss
here. We call Dell support and after so long they
say
"You have tried everything we can tell you to try,
you
will have to contact Microsoft for more assistance".
Call Microsoft and they say "You bought it from
Dell,
you have to call them for support".

Any ideas are greatly appreciated. I'm up for trying
anything.

Thank,
Chad