Re: Connecting to NetShare with Vista boxes...problem continues -- MIDRANGE-L

You know, I might have been the only one that agreed with Steve about
anti-Iseries stuff. I think IBM has left our machine out in the cold. But
this statement....

"great idea! Windows and .NET is the premier programmable OS and run
time."

Makes me think he is just a troll.

And this one

"And media center does a nice job playing DVD movies."

BS. It took me 20 mins to realize I might as well just hook up a DVD player
than try to figure out how to play certain parts of a DVD. A hacked Xbox
works better than an xbox 360 will work anyday.

Art Tostaine
On 5/31/07, albartell <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>on a home system there is windows backup.
Hopefully better than the SyncToy product they put out awhile back.

>And media center does a nice job playing DVD movies.
Even from a home user standpoint this doesn't really interest
me. Everyone
in the room raise your hand if you have more than one or two DVD software
players on your machine... I digress.

>in the corporate setting my guess it is Vista hands down over XP.
So you have or have not used it in a corporate setting?

>great idea! Windows and .NET is the premier programmable OS and run
time.
Glug, glug, glug. Mmm... You're right, that Koolaid _is_ good! Sorry I
couldn't resist poking fun at that statement. I just have no idea where
you
come from with those comments. I won't argue that .NET coupled with
Visual
Studio has some very nice quick-to-market features, but when you say it is
"premier" I am guessing you are doing an overall comparison to the System
i5, i5 OS, and supporting languages that includes the entire life cycle of
that machines existence. By that I mean Microsoft looks real good out of
the gates, but the deeper you get the more cumbersome your ROI becomes.
Sadly the same is sorta true for Java on the System i5 in _some_
cases. But
that just isn't the case when you couple System i5, i5OS and supported ILE
languages - which is what I would consider some premier programmable OS
and
runtime!

Anyways, I don't think I am going to move you from your position based on
previous threads where others have tried to convince you otherwise. I
just
couldn't resist getting in the mix at least once to say that you don't
seem
to weigh the entire picture when you make your statements.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Richter
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:38 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Connecting to NetShare with Vista boxes...problem continues

On 5/30/07, albartell <albartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Who would want to - the future is now!
> Fair enough, but what does going to Vista get me other than a cool
> look and feel (which I found online anyways and applied to my XP Pro)?
> I have gotten things in the mail and read a few things online, but
> nothing is really making me say "man, I gotta get my hands on this
> next Windows version because it is going to provide me xyz".

vista will likely have better connectivity to other windows systems.
on a home system there is windows backup. And media center does a nice job
playing DVD movies. in the corporate setting my guess it is Vista hands
down over XP. UAC may be a hassle but would you insist that your users use
it or not? Vista has better protection against hackers and supposedly
there
is no need for users to run as administrator.

>
> I think Microsoft would have done better to create an operating system
> that was more business and programming oriented (thinking about
WRKACTJOB
vs.
> Task Manager when I state that).

great idea! Windows and .NET is the premier programmable OS and run time.
that is why it is so successful. a lot of the windows software could be
better. what is great about windows is that you the programmer have all
the
tools, interfaces and CPU speed needed to make a better explorer, task
manager, email client, ...

-Steve
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